Psychologist??

Hi,

I need some advice - my autistic 9 year old son was diagnosed a year ago but despite adapting to him and trying things recommended to us we are having continued behavioural issues.

1. Most days he says he wants to die and gets knives (blunt) from our kitchen.

2. He hits every day either his dad or little sister when he gets angry.

3. He refuses to do anything new despite preparing him.

4. If we say he can’t do something he shouts that we don’t care or love him.

This is really impacting our family life - I wondered if a psychologist would help? He has previously had some Camhs sessions which didn’t really help so currently is not seeing anyone professionally.

thanks

Parents
  • Where is his safe space where he can hide from the world and process his day?    Is he managing at school?   If he's stressed because of the day's interactions and no way to decompress then the slightest demand placed upon him will push him over the edge.    What hobbies does he have where people don't interfere with him?  What does he enjoy?    How chaotic is your household?   Is it noisy/people shouting? 

    Where is he able to escape to?

  • He has a safe space in his room with objects that he has chosen to calm him. He likes playing on his tablet and climbing a tree in the garden. Problem is he doesn’t identify he is heading towards a meltdown therefore doesn’t use them and then obviously meltdown occurs. We are a fairly straightforward family and wouldn’t describe it as chaotic?!

  • Does he have a logical routine in his life?   Does he know what's expected of him?   Does he have anything to vent at - something he can expend all the frustration and excess energy with - like a punchbag or hard physical activity he likes?  (Something other than people?)

  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to Plastic

    Some autistics experience this but not all. I never felt the social pressure to fit in. The sensory environment did cause me issues at school though and later at work in a uni. I used to have a diffuser on with calming scents to help me get through the day. I also blocked out the window on my office door to reduce the impact of people constantly walking past. As such, I think its key to not make any assumptions and instead to speak to your son about his specific experiences and observe what is going on.

    When communicating might also be useful to consider how literal autistic people can be and how some of us struggle with readings between the lines. For example, if someone asked me how school was, as I was in the top sets getting good grades I'd of said great. If I'd been asked about how I felt about going back after holidays/ a day off I'd have been able to communicate my distress around the change. I also wish my parents noticed how many migraines I had and were able to make the connection to my sensory needs. Esp as these were relevant in the activities they tried to force me to do too, such as visiting busy tourist spots in peak season.

  • I think he brings the stress of school home!

    That's probably because he's becoming aware of his own difference and feels the pressure to fit in with everyone else - it's extremely frustrating - especially if things appear illogical.

  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to NAS38782

    A lot of this can be controlled and should be if it's making your son suicidal. For example,

    Impromptu meetings with the head - this suggests issues around boundaries. Say no. Explain the impact this is having on his well-being (especially that he's so stressed he wants to die) and explore new ways of communicating. E.g son doesn't attend meetings, head only meets with you, email communication with home instead etc

    Trips/sports days - would it be better for your son to have a low sensory day at home? Do you need to do any work around managing any anxieties around returning after a day off?

    Swimming lessons - why are these not at the same time/day each week? Do you need to do some autism awareness training with the school so they know that their behaviour is making your son so distressed? Do you need to spell out what inclusive teaching is if they don't know how to do this?

    Is your son at the right school or would he benefit from one that is better designed for his needs?

    Its best to focus on one thing at once to prevent you all from becoming overwhelmed, therefore, for now, I'd start with his home environment, esp why your son doesn't feel loved. This book might help with decoding relationships at home and would def be useful for school. There's even an accompanying workbook 

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K34NMK8/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

  • He hates school but teachers think he is coping better than he used to - less meltdowns etc. I think he brings the stress of school home!

  • Also, all the school kids are developing socially and changing the way they interact and he may be noticing the changes among his peers and not knowing why and is feeling increasingly different and left-out.   How is his school life?

  • Always change at school - new class, teacher, sports day, trips, swimming lessons, having older kids teaching on occasion, impromptu meetings with the head!!!!

    I am open to new strategies and am not closed off however it has got to the point where I think we need some external help for the health and wellbeing of my son

  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to NAS38782

    If he has the tools then why isn't everything ok? Isn't it more likley he doesn't have the most appropriate coping strategies for his current needs and/or the right environment? I ask as you seem very closed off and limited in what your willing to consider.

    What change is unavoidable throughout primary school? I'm curious as the only change I had to cope with was a new teacher and the odd change in pupils in the class.

  • I am open to new ideas and strategies and ultimately I just want my son to be happy. Yes I agree he has the tools but also don’t know why he behaves like this. I know things that trigger him however they can’t be avoided all the time unfortunately. As he is only 9 he experienced change through school which is unavoidable. I would like him to do recreational activities that I know he would enjoy if he gave them a chance but I would never force him. 

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  • I am open to new ideas and strategies and ultimately I just want my son to be happy. Yes I agree he has the tools but also don’t know why he behaves like this. I know things that trigger him however they can’t be avoided all the time unfortunately. As he is only 9 he experienced change through school which is unavoidable. I would like him to do recreational activities that I know he would enjoy if he gave them a chance but I would never force him. 

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  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to Plastic

    Some autistics experience this but not all. I never felt the social pressure to fit in. The sensory environment did cause me issues at school though and later at work in a uni. I used to have a diffuser on with calming scents to help me get through the day. I also blocked out the window on my office door to reduce the impact of people constantly walking past. As such, I think its key to not make any assumptions and instead to speak to your son about his specific experiences and observe what is going on.

    When communicating might also be useful to consider how literal autistic people can be and how some of us struggle with readings between the lines. For example, if someone asked me how school was, as I was in the top sets getting good grades I'd of said great. If I'd been asked about how I felt about going back after holidays/ a day off I'd have been able to communicate my distress around the change. I also wish my parents noticed how many migraines I had and were able to make the connection to my sensory needs. Esp as these were relevant in the activities they tried to force me to do too, such as visiting busy tourist spots in peak season.

  • I think he brings the stress of school home!

    That's probably because he's becoming aware of his own difference and feels the pressure to fit in with everyone else - it's extremely frustrating - especially if things appear illogical.

  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to NAS38782

    A lot of this can be controlled and should be if it's making your son suicidal. For example,

    Impromptu meetings with the head - this suggests issues around boundaries. Say no. Explain the impact this is having on his well-being (especially that he's so stressed he wants to die) and explore new ways of communicating. E.g son doesn't attend meetings, head only meets with you, email communication with home instead etc

    Trips/sports days - would it be better for your son to have a low sensory day at home? Do you need to do any work around managing any anxieties around returning after a day off?

    Swimming lessons - why are these not at the same time/day each week? Do you need to do some autism awareness training with the school so they know that their behaviour is making your son so distressed? Do you need to spell out what inclusive teaching is if they don't know how to do this?

    Is your son at the right school or would he benefit from one that is better designed for his needs?

    Its best to focus on one thing at once to prevent you all from becoming overwhelmed, therefore, for now, I'd start with his home environment, esp why your son doesn't feel loved. This book might help with decoding relationships at home and would def be useful for school. There's even an accompanying workbook 

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07K34NMK8/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

  • He hates school but teachers think he is coping better than he used to - less meltdowns etc. I think he brings the stress of school home!

  • Also, all the school kids are developing socially and changing the way they interact and he may be noticing the changes among his peers and not knowing why and is feeling increasingly different and left-out.   How is his school life?

  • Always change at school - new class, teacher, sports day, trips, swimming lessons, having older kids teaching on occasion, impromptu meetings with the head!!!!

    I am open to new strategies and am not closed off however it has got to the point where I think we need some external help for the health and wellbeing of my son

  • Former Member
    Former Member in reply to NAS38782

    If he has the tools then why isn't everything ok? Isn't it more likley he doesn't have the most appropriate coping strategies for his current needs and/or the right environment? I ask as you seem very closed off and limited in what your willing to consider.

    What change is unavoidable throughout primary school? I'm curious as the only change I had to cope with was a new teacher and the odd change in pupils in the class.