What would an ASD Utopia be like?

It helps when you know the script....

Is that only if we share the same special interest.....?  What about my question re. What stops normal folk understanding us...or even others of different radial, cultural, etc backgrounds.....

would it turn into lord of the flies?

my role would be redundant.....surely no elephant would exist in the room in a Utopia?

My point exactly,given we would all be in the autistic spectrum we would or should in theory work better together, in a small way I experienced something similar! I belong to a car forum and went to a yearly gathering of fellow owners of a particular make of car, it was so easy chatting to folks as so long as I talked about their car or mine we had a common link,add to that we all made special effort to attend the meet means we were all wanting pretty much the same from the experience, ok we were all individuals from all walks of life but a common link gave us a connection.To be honest I think quite a few could join autopia and be quite at home,obsessive about just one thing(make of car).knew every model every variation and spent hours polishing.

I think we would all start to open up in our new safe community!

Neural typical - what common folk called normal...what ever normal means!

do you think we'd do a better job? I'm being devils avocate here...please don't take offence..

We tend to be very empathic but find difficulty articulating this...if those barriers are removed.....then Utopia...

for normal folk...what are their barriers? And if these are removed...what happens?

worth thinking about....

What is NP? I do hate all of these acronyms. I imagine we'd have differences and some conflicting personalities like any other community, maybe we'd be better at finding peaceful resolution?

But how would you rate capability in this Utopia....?  NP vs ASD?

cue manichical laughter.....

"who makes the rules?" Well as we are all at different levels of coping I imagine some would be seen as more capable and would be democratically voted to carry out the communities rules. There would be problems of coarse because ultimately we are humans. Or are we???? Ha ha lol.

I know a lot of this is for fun but like I said on toms post I kept meaning to start a post not dissimilar to this,

Basically would an island or community work if it had nothing but autistic spectrum people on it? Would it just be a parallel version of "normal" life? Still with it's issues but on our level?

I like to think if we were left to our own devices much like on here we would start to be our true selves,even the not being touched thing might change as trust and understanding,empathy would slowly change our ways, I think if I could truly believe the person I was going to talk to was just like me I could look them in the eye as it would not in my mind be intrusion into my world, I had to do a job for a lovely old Yorkshire lady who said "my mum always said if you look into someone's eyes and ask them if they are honest you can tell" she looked straight at me and said the words, I kid you not I felt like she had crawled inside me and had a good route about, I didn't feel violated though which is how I normally feel? It was by far the only time I have ever stared into another's eyes. She did say I was a very honest man which she really meant.

I can't help thinking most of our issues are"not belonging" so take that out of the equation and given time I think it would be  an autopia.

Tay!

Elephants will definitely not be redundant! 

Are elephants redundant in this Utopia?

A kind of of humanitarian landscape but slightly anarchic ... who makes the rules?

mute hairdressers it is - tick!

My more serious Utopia, or Autopia (Thanks Tom):

A place of acceptance and no pressure to conform.

I think everyone should have the same opportunity to learn about themselves, without judgement or pressure. Also bullying, persecution and hatred should be dealt with by banishment of the persecutors to a place where they cannot continue to harm peoples lives. Almost every problem in the world I see comes down to one of those 3 problems, but in a world where we are all part of the same human race, people should all have the same right to a life free from fear, and have the opportunity to live the life they want to live, within a single set of rules which should be set to properly protect the human rights of all people, regardless of orientation, religion and race

The hairdresser thing!!  I haven't been for years as the last time was utter trauma and I ended up shaking all over, I don't know how the poor woman managed to cut it. I cut it myself now when it's long enough to reach over my head, so it's longer than I'd like.  My Mum helpfully told me I looked like a witch a couple of years ago increasing my aversion to mirrors.

So my light hearted version of Utopia would have:

Touch screen devices would definately be swapped for things with big clicky switches,

Lights would dim as you look towards them,

People would not actually be able to get to close to you, and would only be able to talk to you when you are ready to listen to them,

Hairdressers would not talk to you or have mirrors,

Supermarkets would let ASD people in when all the shelves are full, before they get ransacked by people who leave things in the wrong places,

If politicians lie, or are proven not to understand they would be sacked immediately,

Social media would not allow people to tell others what they have been doing if it is not some sort of life changing event. People who then break this and tell people every time they eat something would be silenced for a set period of time,

You can jump topic whenever you like Spotty...that is what we are all here for.

have you checked out LoneWarriors comments on The So Scared thread...

is ASD just not fitting in to the current social expectations of behaviour? How would things change if you felt that you did! Maybe you do and we just need to all shift our perception.

the idea of a commune keeps coming up, which us interesting....

Hi Elephant, I guess acceptance is everything, it's all the LBGT community wanted/want.  Your points about understanding and not needing to explain yourself are interesting as I've realised I need to apply them to myself as well.  I mean that if I can accept the autism lens I should stop trying to explain and justify myself to myself and accept that is how it is. I'm not in that place yet.

I guess my fantasy commune was about a place of safety and safe socialisation too.  It's good to find there is a reason that social interaction is so bloody difficult and draining but how do you translate that into life and figure out where to draw lines, my take on all this is very tempered by the fact that I don't have a proper income so I'm dependent on a NT partner and feel like I have to be careful, I do fall into black and white worst case scenario thinking here.

And now I'll shut up before I go off topic completely.

For me:

- acceptance that we are all unique

- understanding

- not needing to explain myself

- a place of peace

- a safe place to socialise...if and when I choose to

Hi Spotty

like your parallels with the LBGT community. So would your Utopia mean acceptance?