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Since a recent poster has stated that they did not read the rule about posting for research purposes, perhaps an explicit question, requiring a yes or no answer could be included in the sign up process, for example "will you post details of research with the aim of gaining participants?" If the applicant indicates "no", then the sign up application continues. If the applicant indicates "yes" they could be directed or automatically forwarded to the relevant information on the website which relates to seeking permission and approval before using the forum. This could be coupled with moderators receiving a note of the chosen username, so they can actively check New posts, in case the person changes their mind, indicates "no" and proceeds regardless. Furthermore, a function linked to the chosen username could detect whether the sequence of letters "student" or "research" is included and a prompt about the relevant rule.

Ok, so the rules are openly available for all. People signing up should read rules when joining. But it is apparent that this is not always happening, or at least from time to time people posting unapproved unpermitted research requests are saying they have not read the rule(s). So these additional measures would hopefully cut down on this problem.

  • Could the community rules even be added to? Over and above staying in the rules that permission must be sought (and granted) before posting a request, could there be an addition that researchers who have received permission must state this in their post (with some suggested or mandatory wording to include).

  • If students want good grades then I don't advise contacting forums because they don't really know who we are. One doesn't need a diagnosis to be on here and one mayn't be telling the truth either.

    If a student wants a good grade by asking those of us research questions they be much better finding out if there are any local groups and going through those channels. When I did my degree we had a whole unit on research work and the best approach. First point of call being how to get beyond the gate post as it it were. Knowing of the right person in the first place. Forums aren't really knowing the right person in the first place. Though the informaiton on the web page could sign post them to where they want to be.

    I think it very irresponsible of students to be asking us here because we are through nature of autism are all vulnerable at varying levels and of course we want to help but some of us have no idea whether or not to trust and since we are always being told to be careful what information we are putting out - I think research students really need to think about what they are doing. Yes a great resource used wisely and the forum space may prove a useful contact with someone but I agree with an earlier comment about those student who come 'here' are lazy really and do not know where to start. If they ask where do they start that perhaps be more constructive then just bombarding us with essay questions and surveys that we get absolutly no thanks and no recognition for. Can't pass a box of chocs round now can they where if they managed to locate an actual group they could present them with chocs afterwards for helping. I say afterwards because if given before they could be seen as bribary. Give them as you leave then seen as a thanks. 

    Tough being a struggling student but there it is.

  • Was a member of a deaf group for a while with the same issues. Ill thought out semi-literate Survey Monkey questionnaires = garbage in, garbage out.  Yes its 'nice' that these people 'care'  'passionately' but scratch the surface and what do you get? Ignorance and arrogance if not downright bullying and abuse. Spell checker? Grammar checker? Confidentiality? Data Protection? University affiliation? Name of supervisor? (these people are not as yet trained researchers - someone must be responsible for them). Zero points.

    No idea how to stop it though. Anything we write here could be quoted anyway, I doubt they check attribution or permissions, but Longman's right - it is unlikely to contribute to anything useful - apart from their getting a degree.........

  • I suspect the ones we get will ignore that measure as well.

    It is important to point out that most students after a good grade will be trying to get the right kinds of data sets/interview subjects. They wont be trawling on here.

    The students we get on here are usually the shirkers. They've left it too late to start. They haven't any real idea what they want to do. They're quite happy to get a bare pass degree. They don't mind abusing a disability help line for a quick and easy way supposedly.

     Most universities warn students against doing this. The students we get mostly are social work and health students at fringe colleges. We occasionally get one that slips through from a proper university. 

    The students fishing for subjects on here will never be quality researchers. They'll be lucky to graduate with their year cohort. So stories about wanting to do dedicated work for autism are sheer nonsense.

    Current policy, under fees and loans, is to admit as many students as possible, irrespective of their chances. In general the newer universities get the larger portion of marginals. It means staff time is taken up with people who scrape through with many resits, because the system doesn't exclude them. That's cruel as staff want to support genuine students including disabled students,. Time is taken up with people using university for the wrong purposes.