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The Southport Enquiry

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I have just listened to the awful results of the Southport enquiry which overtly mentions the fact that sadly the killer was diagnosed with autism. As soon as this was mentioned my heart sank. I really hope that this doesn't lead to a narrow negative view of neurodivergent individuals being feared as violent : (

I just wanted to seek some comfort from the community because its really upset me.

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  • 90-95% of people in prison don't have autism. So plenty of non-autistic people cause trouble. No one wants to lock all them up.

    While autism may make you prone to certain things, there are many other factors at play.

    I wouldn't worry.

    Autistic people are more a risk to themselves than to others. 

  • in reply to Stuart333
    Stuart333 said:
    90-95% of people in prison don't have autism.

    The truth seems quite different:

    From The Journal of Clinical & Medical Images - Case Reports document called:
    Autism in prison: Perspective on the current scenario:

    https://jcmimagescasereports.org/article/JCM-V5-1783.pdf

    Around fifty percent of people in prison have a neurodiverse condition.

    I asked a detective I was working with once about this and he said that a lot of it is because neudivergent people are more prone to being led on by those with bad intentions - in essence we are often gullible and too trusting.

    The system does not always take into account what the causes of our gullibility are, just that the crime was committed, the person admits it and it is a good crime closure statistic for the police so they are willing to let it stick.

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  • in reply to Stuart333
    Stuart333 said:
    90-95% of people in prison don't have autism.

    The truth seems quite different:

    From The Journal of Clinical & Medical Images - Case Reports document called:
    Autism in prison: Perspective on the current scenario:

    https://jcmimagescasereports.org/article/JCM-V5-1783.pdf

    Around fifty percent of people in prison have a neurodiverse condition.

    I asked a detective I was working with once about this and he said that a lot of it is because neudivergent people are more prone to being led on by those with bad intentions - in essence we are often gullible and too trusting.

    The system does not always take into account what the causes of our gullibility are, just that the crime was committed, the person admits it and it is a good crime closure statistic for the police so they are willing to let it stick.

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  • in reply to Iain

    You will notice that it says neurodiverse and not autism specifically.

    that paper is referring to neurodiverse conditions as a whole, not autism specifically. (And infact points out that only 9% are autistic - which supports more closely Stuarts comment) That category includes things like ADHD, learning disability, and mental health conditions, which have very different associations with offending.

    It does say “are “targets for bullying, manipulation, and sexual abuse”

    The broader evidence base (including systematic reviews and UK Parliament evidence) consistently shows that autistic people are not more likely to offend, and in many cases have lower rates than the general population.

    So it’s not accurate to use a general ‘neurodiverse’ statistic to imply anything about autism specifically.”

    Autistic people are likely to be victims or witnesses more often than offenders…. 

     www.autism.org.uk/.../criminal-justice