General chat about not a lot thread

I'm bemused by my ability to control my trackpad mouse without touching it, the cursor moves as if by magic when I hold my finger an inch or two above it, but ignores me when I tap on it to get into somethng like a thread, I have to hit the button. I also find myself being bounced around by my hand being to near a sensitive spot on the track pad, it all seems quite random.

Does this count as a Jedi power?

TheCatWoman said:

Does this count as a Jedi power?

I think you are probably channeling a poltergeist. It would explain all the random electrical and electronic issues you experience too,

No, no poltergeists here, just me, randomly screwing up things with silicon chips. I wonder if it will effect digital ID card when they bring them out?

TheCatWoman said:

more recent studies where it was found that polterguists, are nearly always associated with teenagers usually girls.

I was a student of Applied Physics at unit at the time I was conducting the research and the tests were rigorously conducted so that any findings were verifiable by the scientific community.

From the cases we looked at, many had no juveniles present so a bit like paracaetemol and autism, there is an association but no evidence of causality.

The link to adolescents is a red herring in my opinion and not where the research should be focussed as it excludes many other potential cases that have different criteria.

I recall there being recorded evidence of this activity happening even when no people were present so there is a big question mark over whether it is connected with people at all.

TheCatWoman said:

I suspect that many don't want to know as they'd have to rewrite various laws of physics and stuff.

Updating the laws of physics based on good research is very common so I don't think this is even a factor.

TheCatWoman said:

if you stop looking and close yourself off to possibilities then you'll remain in ignorance

Or you accept that the "cause" may not be anthing at all. There can be elements or chaos in the mix which can give unusual events and almost all poltergeist cases confirm the poltergeist to be shy of repetition under recording conditions.

It may be absolutely nothing in the end.

I lost interest through moving from Scotland to England and getting a job - surprising how much the grind of a real world, low paid job can snuf out your scientific curiosity.

FT is about far more than ghosts, it's about all sort of weird stuff, plus new discoveries in archaelogy, astronomy and all sorts of things.

As you point out there are as yet no facts, but if you stop looking and close yourself off to possibilities then you'll remain in ignorance. 

Either polterguists are the spirits of those who have died and come back to wreak havc on the living for reasons we don't understand, or they are an expression of some kind of telekinetic energy from people who are troubled. If you've not researched them recently then you maybe unaware of more recent studies where it was found that polterguists, are nearly always associated with teenagers usually girls. Nobody know why or how, but then I suspect that many don't want to know as they'd have to rewrite various laws of physics and stuff. It's just more damned data, scientifically to difficult to think about, which is a shame, as it restricts our knowlege.

TheCatWoman said:

There are quite a few researchers who'd beg to differ

If they can come up with any hard facts then I would listen to them, but they don't so I don't.

Ghosts have proved elusive to science throughout history and they show no signs of changing.

Oddly enough I was a subscriber and contributer to FT for decades since its early years, but after too many years of lack of progress I lost interest in being active in the field.

There are quite a few researchers who'd beg to differ, the Fortean Times is full of newer reseach into such things.

There are quite a few researchers who'd beg to differ, the Fortean Times is full of newer reseach into such things.

TheCatWoman said:

more recent studies where it was found that polterguists, are nearly always associated with teenagers usually girls.

I was a student of Applied Physics at unit at the time I was conducting the research and the tests were rigorously conducted so that any findings were verifiable by the scientific community.

From the cases we looked at, many had no juveniles present so a bit like paracaetemol and autism, there is an association but no evidence of causality.

The link to adolescents is a red herring in my opinion and not where the research should be focussed as it excludes many other potential cases that have different criteria.

I recall there being recorded evidence of this activity happening even when no people were present so there is a big question mark over whether it is connected with people at all.

TheCatWoman said:

I suspect that many don't want to know as they'd have to rewrite various laws of physics and stuff.

Updating the laws of physics based on good research is very common so I don't think this is even a factor.

TheCatWoman said:

if you stop looking and close yourself off to possibilities then you'll remain in ignorance

Or you accept that the "cause" may not be anthing at all. There can be elements or chaos in the mix which can give unusual events and almost all poltergeist cases confirm the poltergeist to be shy of repetition under recording conditions.

It may be absolutely nothing in the end.

I lost interest through moving from Scotland to England and getting a job - surprising how much the grind of a real world, low paid job can snuf out your scientific curiosity.

FT is about far more than ghosts, it's about all sort of weird stuff, plus new discoveries in archaelogy, astronomy and all sorts of things.

As you point out there are as yet no facts, but if you stop looking and close yourself off to possibilities then you'll remain in ignorance. 

Either polterguists are the spirits of those who have died and come back to wreak havc on the living for reasons we don't understand, or they are an expression of some kind of telekinetic energy from people who are troubled. If you've not researched them recently then you maybe unaware of more recent studies where it was found that polterguists, are nearly always associated with teenagers usually girls. Nobody know why or how, but then I suspect that many don't want to know as they'd have to rewrite various laws of physics and stuff. It's just more damned data, scientifically to difficult to think about, which is a shame, as it restricts our knowlege.

TheCatWoman said:

There are quite a few researchers who'd beg to differ

If they can come up with any hard facts then I would listen to them, but they don't so I don't.

Ghosts have proved elusive to science throughout history and they show no signs of changing.

Oddly enough I was a subscriber and contributer to FT for decades since its early years, but after too many years of lack of progress I lost interest in being active in the field.