I’m so Angry! (Rant Alert)

I attended a College meeting today to discuss the lack of provision for my son, who formally had a Statement, but now has an LDA (Learning Disability Assessment.)

Despite having a detailed LDA and attending pre-start meetings to ensure smooth transition and adequate support for my sons needs at College, little has been implemented to the point where he didn’t even have a computer until December last, by which time he was 4 months into the course yet had already been ‘dropped down’ a level, from level 3 Diploma to level 2 Diploma, because it was perceived he could not cope.

He required a laptop (On loan) with two specific soft-ware programs that had been identified as needed to enable him to access education, plus the use of a Dictaphone to record the lectures, but was told by the level 3 tutor he wasn’t allowed to use the Dictaphone in class and had no way of recording his work due to the lack of Auxiliary aids prescribed.

My son has High functioning ASD, Severe Dyslexia and fine motor difficulties, yet has already managed to attain decent grades in his GCSE’s (5 A-C grades including Math) at School and a level 2 extended certificate at a Merit level,  following the use of the above mentioned support in the past.

Yet when this was essentially refused him in his new College course environment he couldn’t access the course and was summarily dropped down firstly by a diploma level and then again to a certificate level, still with no support.                                                                                                                    Repeated requests to the College for review meetings to discuss our concerns and address the situation were just ignored.

Only after I put in a request to see the principle was an appointment suddenly made available. By this time we are 9 months into the course!

The meeting I attended today was extremely patronizing. My son was praised for attaining a level 2 Certificate at Distinction in his current studies and asked to come back for another year to do a level 2 Diploma in September.

I’m not sure the College really appreciate where my sons complaint lies. He already has a level 2 extended certificate. No one in our household is at all surprized he’s managed to attain what he has (A distinction) because it’s not at the level commensurate with his ability. He wanted a Diploma at level 3 or 2, but was prevented from obtaining it because he didn’t have the right tools!

Now he will have to do an extra year, to obtain a Diploma at level 2 before he can even consider level 3.

I’ve spoken to a number of parents and students recently who have had exactly the same experience and frankly , It Sucks!

Why are Colleges being so closed about those on the spectrum or indeed anyone with special needs? The knee jerk reaction is to drop them down a level rather than provide them with the tools for independent learning or access to education!

My son didn’t want a reader or scribe sitting next to him, he just wanted access to learning independently and at a level commensurate with his intelligence and ability. All of which is considered a reasonable adjustment to ensure a disabled pupil is not at a substantial disadvantage in comparison with a non-disabled pupil, under the equality Act 2010 and yet, denied him.

It’s left my son completely demoralized. In fact, I doubt he will return to education any time soon.

For my son, it’s clearly too late and he’s now become a NEET. Given the patronizing tone of the meeting today, I’m not sure whether much would be obtained by making a formal complaint to the College, and yet part of me realizes that if someone doesn’t Stand up and shout, it leaves hoards of students still in the trap of demoralising education, slower than necessary progress and with the potential threat of joining the long line of NEETS lining up behind my son,  looming ever larger!

If You Judge a Fish by Its Ability to Climb a Tree, It Will Live Its Whole Life Believing that It is Stupid. Now’s the time to ditch the prejudice!

It’s time for the colleges to change their poor practices, Stop the demoralization of those with SEN, to ditch the prejudice and to support every student to reach their true potential.

  • Under the current system far too many people face a cliff edge in pre 16 settings. I've been trying to get help for my son since pre-school age. Now it's looking like he is going to fail his GCSEs next year yet his non-attendance of school is being blamed, along with my bad parenting. We have been denied SEN as we have done "too well" up til now, despite the all too obvious signs of much being amiss. FE providers and local authorities need to have considerably more than regard.

  • Lognman - campaigns has responded.

     

    Under the current system far too many young people with autism face a cliff edge in post 16 settings, both in terms of statutory support and the lack of training and awareness among staff. As member of the Special Education Consortium the NAS has been campaigning for the last three years for improvements to SEN provision in FE, many of which are reflected in the recently passed Children and Families Act.  The new  SEN system ,which starts in September ,introduces stronger duties on local authorities and FE providers, including the potential extension of statutory support up to 25 in the form of Education , Health and Care Plans. 

     

    FE providers will also need  to have regard to a new SEN Code of Practice,requiring  them to do more to identify students with SEN and put appropriate support in place. Such support can include assistive technology, specialist tuition, note takers and one to one and small group learning support.  While it will undoubtedly take time for these changes to bed down, they do provide a more robust framework for holding FE settings to account for the quality of their SEN. provision. The NAS will be monitoring the impact of these changes closely to ensure that they translate into tangible improvement for young people with autism. 

     

    For more information on what will be expected of FE settings please see Chapter 7 of draft SEN Code of Practice. 

    www.gov.uk/.../Code_of_Practice_Draft.pdf

  • I've asked our campaigns team for comment on this. 

     

    The unpredictable - I've hidden your post as it was liable to just cause confusion. 

  • Good luck OP~!

    Get a solicitor cos you need legal advice.

  • Hadn't realised he was only 16. They shouldn't have got him to sign without consulting his parents. So they are in deep trouble.

    Where's NAS when you want them? NAS Moderators this is a serious issue and needs your attention and assistance ASAP please.

  • As a dyslecic child with ASD does my son not qualify as a vulnerable person?? He's sixteen. I my opinion he should mot have signed anything before his parents read it or he had a chance to find out what he was signing.

    A clear case of a cover up because my son mentioned hed had no support in the last year. 

    Coogybear

  • Odd things can happen in order to close a module. If a piece of work is outstanding (not submitted or not submitted to requirements) and it isn't necessary to do it to complete the module (eg 40% pass minimum met), but only to satisfy the paperwork, I could conceive some sort of fudge might be applied.

    But what you describe seems odd to me. Sometimes if an assignment was group work, and depended on one of the group doing the data processing and the others using the data for some element of individual work, if this needed to be completed to satisfy the record, a student might legitimately be asked to copy some working to meet the minimum. Or if a student couldn't do the work for some legitimate reason, the completion of part of it in this way might be justified. But it is not good practice.

    The important issue here is that no-one should submit work not his own for assessment, and that includes plagiarism. So your son has been persuaded to do something wrong, but as long as there's no risk to him in having complied with this strange instruction, and it is just them filling gaps, just go along with it. My worry would be if questions subsequently arose implying plagiarism. Are they getting him to do something they can then use against him - eg to get him off the course?  I would advise consulting a solicitor about what has happened and to cover your son and yourself.

    Now the signing off on SEN support he didn't get. I'm gravely concerned this has been done, but unless your son is identified as a vulnerable adult, if your son signed it there's not much can be done. You should complain to the principal of the college about any impropriety, but the problem is proving it. At the very least consult a solicitor. You need proper legal advice on this - don't leave it to chance.

    If it was a case of "water under the bridge" and they were clearing the books and making a fresh start you could ignore it, but I don't think you can. I just don't see how you can prove it as malpractice if they play on your son's word/compliance.

    The college in question is clearly a moral disgrace. But the deed is done as your son has complied. They've covered themselves by doing this, purely in their own selfish interests, and not in the spirit that they exist to fulfil. How this can go on is beyond me.

    We seem to be caught between Michael Gove and David Willets where FE is concerned, and I think that with all the restructuring of everything FE colleges have been allowed irrational laxity. But who is to blame, I don't know.

    But until something is done about the truly rotten state of FE Colleges I don't know of a way forward. NAS Moderators please look at this issue.

    If your son is leaving the college anyway, do you feel you can afford to name and shame them on here?

    What you are describing is a bent college......  How's that possible with so-called regulation and standards.... What a sad mess this country is in.

  • Longman I'm in need of some urgent support and advice.

    Following yesterdays poor meeting at the College to try and resolve the issues raised, my son went into College today to hand in the completed elements of his work and was asked by a member of staff to sign 7 or so pages stating he'd recieved SEN support. This included 40 or so signatures next to dates he's meant to have recieved the support, but hadn't. Only 4 genuine signatures were present on the page he signed, which were all he had recieved for one years alledged support.

    He was also asked to plagiarize another students work today, in order to complete his final module for distinction submission.

    I suspect that this is because he admitted in the meeting he had had no onging SEN support and had notified staff, but was essentially ignored and was relying on a fellow student to help him complete assignments because he couldn't manage as the college had denied him the softeware necessary to demonstarte his ability.

    This issue is obviously very serious as it indicates a deliberate act on the part of the College to cover up their failings with my sons provision.

    I'm agast and very angry, but my son is completely crushed that he agreed to sign something he could neither read nor understand fully. He asked staff what it meant, but was told it didn't matter and just to sign it!' naturally he complied, but later realized it was the SEN support register

    A serious issue and one that im not sure what to do about, Please help me someone!!!!

  • It is unfortunate that colleges are acting this way. But they do need to be challenged. They accepted your son to do a course, they have to have good reasons for recommending he drops a grade (and not because they are having trouble coping with his needs).

    The DDA was quite clear on this. No student once accepted on a course should be prevented from achieving what he/she is capable of achieving through any subsequent downgrading of the provision. There is a reason for this - the time taken to obtain qualifications can affect obtaining university places or employment, and there is generally a limited number of "goes" you can have. So your son's opportunities must not be prejudiced by restrictions imposed after acceptance.

    The trouble is you have to go through the courts to get resolution, and currently that's not easy, and few people do, they just put up with sub-standard. Which defeats the purpose of the DDA and the Autism act.

    The situation in UK FE colleges should be a national scandal. It is just I don't think the press are sufficiently aware of what's going on.

    I believe the Minister responsible is the Rt Hon David Willetts M. P., Minister of State for Universities and Science. OK does he cover FE colleges? My understanding is he does. But you can see the problem - where does the buck stop between schoo,l and university - the gap occupied by FE Colleges.

    This is a good time to make a fuss - there is a general election a year from now, and Mionisters will be eager to patch over any electoral anxieties. But its the usual problem - disability getting a loud enough voice.

    So I have to ask... where is NAS in all this?  Is NAS campaigning to improve autism support in FE colleges?

    NAS has guidelines for the teaching of students on the spectrum in FE colleges (Home - working with people with autism - education - education professionals in further and higher education - Guidelines...). Its a long way down the menu tree, and I cannot see anything there that shows any comprehension of the specific problems of support in FE colleges. 

    It really is high time NAS did something about the shoddy way young people with autism are being treated in FE Colleges.