World War Three? Or summit else?

When what I have been told comes to be public history you will learn that a cople of months ago we came that close to a nuclear exchange with the Russian Federation. 

I believe that we are all "too close to the trees to see the wood" and that were you to be exposed to actual day to day foreitgn peopel speaking "their truth" to you most of you would be as gobsmacked as I was to hear/read how they see us British and our society.

There is a large segment of the Russian population that seems all in favour of literally washing England away into the sea, when I coem across them, on a forum on in a comment section I often ask them why they hate us so much. IF you ask enough and earnestly enough soemone eventually takes time to give a thoughful answer.

I would urge you ALL to ask yoruselves; "Iisn't it time England was NEUTRAL for a change??" Didn't we not give enough blood and treasure in the last two world wars?

When you consider that the UK army won't even fill a football stadium, our nuclear deterrent is old, leased, and with a dual key fire system half owned by the Yanks just how much can we really contribute to someone else's war against Russia? Even we are were allowed to use our trident carrying submarines, we've only ever got two serviceable at once whcih measn we can only get off a half of our trident missiles IF their subs don't get stuffed first by the Russian hunter killer sub FLEET. the RAF might have a few gravity bombs of the B61 type but bombers have to get to their release points and that is by no means a bygone conclusion... 

Of course, people always tell me we are in NATO. And an attack against the U.K. would meet robust support from NATO as we invoke article 5.

REALLY. Do you think if the RF decided to use ONE of their many Sarmat MIRV missiles that can COMPLETELY RUIN ENGLAND at a stroke, that anyone facing a similar onslaught would actually try and intervene?

Nah, they'll all shuffle their feet and look at the steaming hole in the north sea and the fragmenatry "british Isles" blame our White Toxic Christianity or some other such twaddle and get on with the realpolitic of a world where Russia is feared by all, and the USA has to choose between undeclared surrender or a nuclear war with an opponent who has shelters for 80$ of his people, (and they are practiced in using them) arguably the best anti missile systems in the world (and plenty of them) and the means to deliver multiple 100Mt nuclear warheads to the east and west coastlines simultaneously by means of their Poseiden system...

Where are our shelters, our whizz bang anti missiles, etc?

Form a geopolitical perspective England is acting like me when the other kids would set me up for a fight in school (before I wised up, ofc).

Many English people I talk to are pumped up and full of pee and vinegar about "going toe to toe in nuklear combat with those rooskies" whilst not having a clue about how very, very close we are to an almost incomprehensible lesson in leanring "when it is good to pull your neck in".   

What we should have been doing in the post brexit situation is puttng the country on a "friends to all enemy of no-one" business footing, and leveraging the remaining engineering and inventing talent to get us an exportable product or technology going, so we can import what we need. Not closing down our last big steel furnace, that's for sure! 

I Sperg said:

I would urge you ALL to ask yoruselves; "Iisn't it time England was NEUTRAL for a change??"

I didn't think of you as such a cheese eating surrender simian I Sperg.

Britain has few strands of international reputation left but not tolerating bullies is actually one of them. We may be  a bit toothless but it doesn't mean we should be afraid of offending anyone or be as two faced as is possible in order not to be picked on.

Russias show in Ukraine has been quite telling - their equipment is largely not as good as they claim, their troops poorly trained, and their ability to make headway agains a much weaker opponent embarrassing. Terrible management, poor kit and success has largely been at the cost of thowing men into a meat grinder to win a war of attrition.

They have been burning through their stockpiles of weapons faster than they can replace them and they are suffering from the ongoing sanctions to the point their economy is in very poor shape. Heck they have just bailed out of Syria after their backing in that theatre went badly wrong.

I don't place much faith in Russias ability to effectively launch an attack on the UK and even if they did , there would be a few big cities gone (would anyone even miss Birmingham ) but what is left would be more than capable of striking back, potentially with NATOs support.

I Sperg said:

When what I have been told comes to be public history

Can you share your source?

I Sperg said:

I would urge you ALL to ask yoruselves; "Iisn't it time England was NEUTRAL for a change??"

I didn't think of you as such a cheese eating surrender simian I Sperg.

Britain has few strands of international reputation left but not tolerating bullies is actually one of them. We may be  a bit toothless but it doesn't mean we should be afraid of offending anyone or be as two faced as is possible in order not to be picked on.

Russias show in Ukraine has been quite telling - their equipment is largely not as good as they claim, their troops poorly trained, and their ability to make headway agains a much weaker opponent embarrassing. Terrible management, poor kit and success has largely been at the cost of thowing men into a meat grinder to win a war of attrition.

They have been burning through their stockpiles of weapons faster than they can replace them and they are suffering from the ongoing sanctions to the point their economy is in very poor shape. Heck they have just bailed out of Syria after their backing in that theatre went badly wrong.

I don't place much faith in Russias ability to effectively launch an attack on the UK and even if they did , there would be a few big cities gone (would anyone even miss Birmingham ) but what is left would be more than capable of striking back, potentially with NATOs support.

I Sperg said:

When what I have been told comes to be public history

Can you share your source?

Erm.... I lived in the West Midlands once. 

I used to go on endless demo demonstrations in the 80's against the Bomb, visiting Upper Heyford and Greenham Common too. The nuke strength was shown up on TV almost every other evening, but when Reagan was finally shown what a nuclear war would really mean, and the MAD forma really sunk in, he rang Gorbachev.

I don't suppose the movie shown to Reagan would impress a true psychopath much though. 

I think the UK is too wedded to American interests to be much of a staunch supporter of underdogs now. Regarding bullies, the only crumb of advice ex world leader Merkel would have is not to shown certain bullies on the world stage any fear. Not even when they bring their pet do or tiger into the front room. She was too used to normal, reasonable people and negotiating them to recognise evil.

It needs very special negotiators these days to face down bullies of this magnitude now. 

So back to Russian Roulette and the threat of the Bomb. Lovely.