Do you ever say the wrong thing??

anyone else have experiences of this? I’m 40 and feel that no matter how hard I try or how much I research about social situations I always make catastrophic mistakes and lose friends.

i wanted to start a small set of books written by local faith groups for children to share their faiths and promote unity and peace when so much of the world is divided and to provide them to schools. Apparently this is offensive.

i can sort of understand why, but in reality I don’t. It seems so complicated. Surely someone doing something and trying their best to help is a good thing and better than nobody ever trying?? 

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  • There's quite a bit to unpack there, and the whole situation is rather ambiguous. By local faith groups, to whom are you referring? Are the children in question already being raised within the religion of these groups? Where do your friends fit into this situation? Are the parents of the children aware of this idea?

    Obviously I can't ask who you are in this situation due to anonymity rules, but as it's unclear what your position may be in regards to these local faith groups, it's hard to say how appropriate your idea is. It sounds like there's something in there that your friends find objectionable. Could you tell us what they expressed to you about it?

    Without knowing more, it's hard to really assess the situation to know what to say about it.

  • Thanks for your reply. I wanted to pay for communities to write booklets for kids to have and also swap and share that celebrate the best and good bits about it their faith, and challenged stereotypes and herald historical heroes and living members of the community who have shown universally acknowledged virtues (humiiity, charity, love, compassion, patience, temperance, diligence, forgiveness etc). I met and spoke to an imam who was realy excited at the idea and also went to a synagogue to see if they’d be interested (who were also really keen!

    When I told a friend who is a teacher she said it was really offensive for me to do this as I am a white middle class secular woman. I couldn’t understand why -I thought I saw a gap for a local initiative that could promote unity of different faiths and backgrounds but she felt I was being prejudicial and bigoted and islamophobic. My husband then agreed.

    I can, and have accepted I have got this wrong. I don’t want to hurt or offend anyone-quite the reverse. But I can’t claim to understand it. 

    I find social situations so incredibly difficult to navigate and feel despondent and can’t see the point in trying any more. Why has society made this so complicated - so complicated and so lacking in faith and trust in peoples ability to be well meaninged? The hypersensitivity to causing potential offence I myself find upsetting and offensive.

    how can I ever advise my autistic daughter how to navigate the world when someone seeing an unkindness, deciding the pay a lot of money towards helping parties involved fix that unkindness is apparently offensive!? When the parties themselves seemed keen and thought it was a good intitiative!? How can life be so complicated!?  

    I so often feel conspicuous that I don’t say or act in the right way. These sorts of things just make me want to hide away forever and never meet anyone or go anywhere or do anything as this makes me feel hurt, untrusted, scared, and stupid. 

    I know this isn’t a sensible solution. But I suppose I just need to vent and would appreciate knowing if I’m not the only one to find adult life so im possible. I feel I fail at every turn at the moment. I keep offending people when I am trying to be as kind as I can, and honest at the same time.

    please, if you have any experience of putting your foot in it, or doing the wrong thing, please let me know I’m not alone.

  • When I told a friend who is a teacher she said it was really offensive for me to do this as I am a white middle class secular woman. I couldn’t understand why -I thought I saw a gap for a local initiative that could promote unity of different faiths and backgrounds but she felt I was being prejudicial and bigoted and islamophobic. My husband then agreed.

    Prejudice? Bigoted? Islamophobic? I don't think it's fair for this teacher to label you in such a way. You were trying to make everyone unite based on the key values that are similar across all faiths and backgrounds. I'm not a part of an organized faith, but I'd rather hear what you have to teach, rather than to hear whatever that teacher is trying to say. Views like what that teacher has, is why there is a divide across communities. And for your husband to agree with the teacher instead of the person he married, why'd he do that? Why didn't he stand up for you? 

    I don't think what you were trying to do is wrong, but people might misconstrue your intentions to be something bad. 

    I think you should still try and continue to bring about the open discussion about the key values that exist in every faith and background. Maybe it would help bridge the gap and the divide that's happening in the community. 

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  • When I told a friend who is a teacher she said it was really offensive for me to do this as I am a white middle class secular woman. I couldn’t understand why -I thought I saw a gap for a local initiative that could promote unity of different faiths and backgrounds but she felt I was being prejudicial and bigoted and islamophobic. My husband then agreed.

    Prejudice? Bigoted? Islamophobic? I don't think it's fair for this teacher to label you in such a way. You were trying to make everyone unite based on the key values that are similar across all faiths and backgrounds. I'm not a part of an organized faith, but I'd rather hear what you have to teach, rather than to hear whatever that teacher is trying to say. Views like what that teacher has, is why there is a divide across communities. And for your husband to agree with the teacher instead of the person he married, why'd he do that? Why didn't he stand up for you? 

    I don't think what you were trying to do is wrong, but people might misconstrue your intentions to be something bad. 

    I think you should still try and continue to bring about the open discussion about the key values that exist in every faith and background. Maybe it would help bridge the gap and the divide that's happening in the community. 

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