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My Kekistani experience...

I Sperg

A while back I mentioned Kekistan here and it did not go down well... Some people say that Kekistan is some how "right wing" and that Pepe the frog is a symbol of hatred.

Which is quite amazing really, you only have to do a fairly shallow dive into the history of the movement to realise that is patently untrue.

So if I may offer the reader an education into the true origins of Kekistan as far as I have been able to determine, where we will learn that that at worst Pepe represents gentle mockery of the great evils that currently oppress all off us, (including partisan and divisive politics) and was in fact a creation by Autists and is a striking metaphor for the situation in which many of us find ourselves. 

I will apologise for the lack of references, at the time I studies kekistan I did not think it was of any real importance, just a bit of amusing internet sillyness, until it suddenly started getting noticed in the real world... 

It all started (I am told) on a website by the name of 4chan, which is reputed to be populated by Autists from around the world. Now as near as I can tell, us Autists come in two flavours as far as the internet (and normie majority who infest it) comes, either the silent majority, (just look at how few of us post here) or "omigod look at how much that 'sperg has written today! Will he ever give it a rest?" Well, a self identification process occurred where a bunch of fairly bright, somewhat marginalised people rather mischieveously formed a self identity, the disparate nation of Kekistan!

So strong was their feeling of nationhood and so devastatingly humourous was their outlook that Kekistan has actually obtained some minor international legal recognition in the past! 

Some autistic people have a lot to say, and "memes" really work for them, so the ethnic Kekistani "meme farmer" meme quickly expanded. 

I fell in love with the concept JUST as it hit it's peak. Now you have to remember that Kekistanis are by their nature an inherently peaceful, productive but deeply unsocial people (hence the diaspora) and frankly, the whole thing was all about poking a bit of fun at the normie oppressors, and reminding each other that we were't alone in our wish to be left alone. Etc.

Then an orange man won an election over the pond that he wasn't supposed to win, (Hillary had Lady De Rothschild in her camp at the time, it was supposed to be hers!) and they started looking for someone to blame...

At least that's how I got the story. It was a uniquely Autistic way to build a grassroots rebellion of sorts, (more of a mockery and exposure of the ridiculousness of our oppressors) and guerilla cells of kekistani meem farmers are to this day churning out and releasing memes of mass distraction, that everyone gets to see at some point.

To anyone out there who has played the Steve Jackson Game "Illuminati" the state of Kekistan cannot fail to be a source of great amusement.

Shadilay,my friends!

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  • in reply to I Sperg
    I Sperg said:
    I do have an agenda here, in that I see the whole "Kekistan" experience as a rather uniquely Autistic achievement, that has been suppressed by a few cleverly selected and well propagated lies, and I'd like to see if those lies can be exposed and overcome though a bit of simple and above all, polite and pleasant discussion.

    Thanks I Sperg for the clarification, this is really helpful.

    Not really sure though what makes 'Kekistan' 'uniquely Autistic' - and the method it employs - ironic posting - I'm not sure how successful they have been. I mean = they can be funny, and create a sense of bonding - but not sure if this is lastin.

  • in reply to James

    I, for one, really enjoyed that post. Thank you.

    This is in "miscellaneous and chat", so is a good place to go off topic.

    I do have an agenda here, in that I see the whole "Kekistan" experience as a rather uniquely Autistic achievement, that has been suppressed by a few cleverly selected and well propagated lies, and I'd like to see if those lies can be exposed and overcome though a bit of simple and above all, polite and pleasant discussion.

    We perhaps ought to have a thread about "leadership" at some point.  

  • in reply to I Sperg
    I Sperg said:
    POLITICIANS ARE ALL THE SAME SORT OF CREATURE.

    Yes: human.

    And like humans, there is much range. There are self-centered careerists, there are those who work for a communitiy, there are those that push for changes and support. To say they are all the same is a bit like saying "red and blue and yellow are he same because they are all colours".

    I Sperg said:
    We select our leaders (and most other "popular people") on the basis of their presentation skills and ruthlessness, rather than on their performance & track record.

    In some cases yes, this happens, in other cases no. You have diagnosed the issue - and people are trying to address it. (There has been a recent publication, which I haven't been able to read yet, which addresses this issue - Brian Klaas's Corruptible: Who Gets Power and How it Changes Us).

    Though in the UK system (which - apologies if I am assuming incorrectly - you are writing from), the leader is not selected, but the representative. And, speaking from personal experience, I can say that there was a huge variation in quality between representatives where I lived (and they *could* and *were* judged by their performance and track record)

    I Sperg said:
    The "selection" process makes damn sure It makes not the slightest difference who you vote for.

    If you are writing about the UK, there can be a huge difference in regards to who you vote for. (See also the point above)

    And, having worked in a country that saw the violent overthrow of a goverment elected in a dubious election...

    I Sperg said:
    Remember the "popular" kids at school? Were they the nice, helpful sort of people or did they turn out to be vacuous social climbers with no real substance or character to them, after a period of observation?

    Yes, you can know them by their fruit. And that is why it is important to have nuance and try to be involved in the system to make it function. For an extreme case - I recently visited the graves of two of my favourite writers murdered by an abhorrent regime led by a charismatic leader who ran on the basest motivations.I recently paid my respects at a site where our predecessors on the spectrum where hidden from society and 'removed' from existence. They were murdered by 'everyday' folk facilitated by such people. Politics may appear to be just about popularitiy, but it isn't. And nor are all politicans the same. That is why we *need* to determine what people would become such politicans, and use a vote wisely and with care.

    My apologies for going somewhat offtopic, for writing at length about a subject that is far from the probable content of a community board for the the National Autistic Society, and for being so emotive for having lived in places that show that all politicians are not the same...  you would not want to be lumped together as a single entity, ignoring any significant variations or personal characteristics, so please have nuance.

  • in reply to Martin

    Newsflash, Martin & James: 

    POLITICIANS ARE ALL THE SAME SORT OF CREATURE.

    The "selection" process makes damn sure It makes not the slightest difference who you vote for.

    We select our leaders (and most other "popular people") on the basis of their presentation skills and ruthlessness, rather than on their performance & track record.

    Remember the "popular" kids at school? Were they the nice, helpful sort of people or did they turn out to be vacuous social climbers with no real substance or character to them, after a period of observation? The sort of people who'd LEAD the exclusion (or at very least "marginalisation") of people who are on the spectrum?

    “And you will know them by their fruit”...