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What is the difference between Asperger Syndrome and ASD Level 1?

Arran

A 14 year old has been identified as having suspected AS by a police officer following a long a circuitous route starting with a Prevent referral at his secondary school.

It was reported back to his secondary school but they no longer recognise AS as a condition as they have gone down the DSM-5 ASD route. The school also does not accept that he has ASD - even at Level 1 - as he does not meet either of two criteria:

1. A noticeable speech and language delay - either currently or at any time since starting primary school.

2. Behind academically in the main subjects - English language, maths, science.

His mother stressed to the school that two criteria of AS are:

1. No noticeable speech and language delay.

2. Average or above average academically in the main subjects.

He is of quite high academic ability, most notably in maths, science, computer science, and geography.

What is the difference between Asperger Syndrome and ASD Level 1?

Is a noticeable speech and language delay and being behind academically in the main subjects essential criteria for an ASD Level 1 diagnosis?

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  • well arnt people with ASD usually above average academically anyway?
    although we generally get held back due to schools being very social hierarchy, which lead to me personally being placed in low sets/classes for subjects and feeling like i am surrounded be absolute imbeciles that can barely read or write who were all below my level of intelligence. so i guess we can get unfairly judged and misplaced in lower tiers of education because the education system is tainted by the social hierarchy, but generally speaking people with ASD are likely above average academically other than that.

  • in reply to Caelus
    Caelus said:
    which lead to me personally being placed in low sets/classes for subjects

    He is in the higher sets for the subjects he is taking for GCSE.

    He wasn't very good at and didn't like the arts subjects, so he dropped all of them at the start of Y9.

  • in reply to Arran

    ah my school placed me in the lowest set for english was in highest at first natrually due to my great sats results but because some knob attacked me in class and forced me to react and stab him with a pen in my defence i ended up getting placed in lowest set with a bunch of morons that cant even read lol i then got a grade E on english then after school i was evaluated by a unbiased source who then gave me a A equivalent and told me that not only that i could easily pass a diploma level in english at the level i was at. thus proving the high schools and GCSEs are a complete waste of time and very biased.

    my RE results were worse though, but i probs deserved that one, i dont believe in religion so i gave it to them bluntly that their imaginary friends dont exist so i got a grade G which i didnt think anything lower than grade F existed so thats rather funny haha the grade G exists more than their God does.

  • in reply to Arran

    tbh if they expelled people for that theyd have no kids in that school lol
    hell teachers got attacked there. we had a teacher that came from london and tried to be strict and teach science, no one was having it, everyone threw thick text books at his face. it was a shitty school with no discipline and a ever rioting class. of which is why i needed to defend myself in that way in the first place...

  • in reply to Caelus
    Caelus said:
    ah my school placed me in the lowest set for english was in highest at first natrually due to my great sats results but because some knob attacked me in class and forced me to react and stab him with a pen in my defence i ended up getting placed in lowest set with a bunch of morons that cant even read

    I find this one hard to believe. Expulsion, yes, but classes are organised by academic ability and not the ability to stab people the hardest!

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  • in reply to Caelus
    Caelus said:
    ah my school placed me in the lowest set for english was in highest at first natrually due to my great sats results but because some knob attacked me in class and forced me to react and stab him with a pen in my defence i ended up getting placed in lowest set with a bunch of morons that cant even read

    I find this one hard to believe. Expulsion, yes, but classes are organised by academic ability and not the ability to stab people the hardest!

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  • in reply to Arran

    tbh if they expelled people for that theyd have no kids in that school lol
    hell teachers got attacked there. we had a teacher that came from london and tried to be strict and teach science, no one was having it, everyone threw thick text books at his face. it was a shitty school with no discipline and a ever rioting class. of which is why i needed to defend myself in that way in the first place...