Maybe someone on here might be able to help me understand this.

I've been trying to find out and figure out what the point of getting vaccinated is if the government isn't going to let places open up and and keep delaying the lifting of lockdown restrictions.

They are marketing these vaccines as the way out of all of this but as far as I can see absolutely nothing has changed, vaccine or not we'd all still be under lockdown.

If anyone here know's where to get any info on this I would like to read up on because all I find online is just news articles about the new variant and just current headlines. Not what I'm looking for.

Bit of random post I know but I wanted to ask you because I can't find anything and no one around me has any ideas either

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  • I just got "triggered" by something one of our members said in another post elsewhere. They were talkiing about advice received form a psychologist and wrote:

    "Not sure how accurate his advice was but I never pay attention to dreams ever since his advice".

    THAT sums up covid for me.

    No-one is sure that the advice being given by our leaders is valid, indeed there is a growing body of evidence, that the "vaccinations" are neither a true vaccine that confers any real protection to society in general (doesn't stop acquisition or transmission, just keeps the carriers out of hospital") of indeed harmless. (fifty times as many footballlers had cardiac events on the pitch last year than in an average year)  YET the vast majority act on it anyway, without question.

    If you want hardcore technical information about covid, read the comments section on "zerohedge" which although reputed to be an "Alt-right" website attracts plenty of pugilistic lefties as well. Since ZH is modelled after the concept of "Fight Club" The comments section although having been cleaned up a few years ago, is where "false news" goes to die..

    Yes, "fact checkers" websites will show a few examples out of the thousands of informative articles and comments where fake news was peddled to teh readership, but I find it a pleasant break from the "lockstep" fear driven thinking, that's been inflicted on us all by Government sponsored Behavioural Psychologists propaganda, and the mainstream media.  

    Heck, google will not allow you to mention Ivermectin at all, even in a private post that no-one you haven't sent the code to, can see! Twitter will now ban you for saying that the "Vaccine" (I've got acess to a microbiologist, and she shares my opinion, this ain't a vaccine they are bunging into nearly everyone's arms) does not stop you from catching covid!.

    NOTHING I've said here, is in anyway a "theory" but it, and the evidence sure does point to a "conspiracy".

    And the "offical story" keeps changing.

    Last year it was widely pushed across all our mainstream media with NO DISSENT ALLOWED that the virus having originated ina Wuhan Bioloical facilty was a crazed conspiracy theory that peopel were being banned form propagating. A couple of days ago our house of lords was briefed that the virus did indeed originate in that lab. 

    And:

    2 weeks to flatten the curve.

    Lockdown is only temporary.

    A vaccine has been developed. (It's not a vaccine, in fact they changed the dictionary definition of vaccine to accomodate teh agenda!)

    The vax will stop you catching covid.

    The vax has an emergency use authoridation because no alternative treatment is available.

    Hydroquinone is not a viable or useful treatment for covid-19

    Ivermectin is not a viable or useful treatment for covid-19

    You will get your normal life priviledges back if you take the vax

    You will get your normal life priviledges back if you take the vax again

    You will get your normal life priviledges back if you take the "booster shot"

    The unvaccinated are the ones spreading the disease. (I for one changed my life so that I don't have to go out and mingle with the real vectors, the poor misinformed dupes who really believe they were injected with something that protects them from catching or transmitting the virus, I.E. a VACCINE.

    For what it's worth, the differnce between a real vaccine and this tomfoolery is that a real vaccine contains a whole virus that has been weakened sufficiently that yoru immune system will get adequate time to formulate it's response. The nature of this response differs from person to person, just as we might all be exposed to teh same facts but we deal with them differently. THIS is how nature makes sure that SOME of us at least, will always defeat a novel pathogen. The "vax" however works COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY, and instead of a whole virus those clever, clever, scientists have decided that all your immune system nees to see to mount an effective response against their manufactured bio-weapon (because that's actually what it is!) is the so called "spike protein".

    For reasons that are not entirely clear to me instead of just filling a syringe with the spike protein (If this is indeed a viable strategy) and bunging it in your arm for your immune system to try and deal with, they instead decided to break out the Crispr kit ( a new technolgy that means that even you adn I can now genetically enineer changes in frogs and other small organisms for about 180$ in yoru kicthen!) and the created a synthetic Mrna compound that makes YOUR cells manufacture the spoke protein. THAT is in cold reality a genetic engineering based "treatment" which is very different form a vaccination, and a very visible example of the dishonesty and hidden agendas that rapidly proving to be more dangerous to our society and way of life than the virus itself. 


  • For reasons that are not entirely clear to me instead of just filling a syringe with the spike protein (If this is indeed a viable strategy) and bunging it in your arm for your immune system to try and deal with, they instead decided to break out the Crispr kit ( a new technolgy that means that even you adn I can now genetically enineer changes in frogs and other small organisms for about 180$ in yoru kicthen!) and the created a synthetic Mrna compound that makes YOUR cells manufacture the spoke protein. THAT is in cold reality a genetic engineering based "treatment" which is very different form a vaccination, and a very visible example of the dishonesty and hidden agendas that rapidly proving to be more dangerous to our society and way of life than the virus itself. 


    First up: mRNA. It won’t reprogram your brain. But it does reprogram some of your cells, in a manner of speaking. And that’s not a defect — it’s intentional.

    To get your head around this you need to understand what mRNA is for. Basically, it’s a single-stranded nucleic acid molecule that carries a genetic sequence from the DNA in the cell’s nucleus into the protein factories — called ribosomes — that sit outside the nucleus in the cellular cytoplasm.

    That’s what the “m” in mRNA stands for: messenger. Messenger RNA just carries instructions for the assembly of proteins from the DNA template to the ribosomes. (Proteins do almost everything that matters in the body.) That’s it.

    This is useful for vaccines because scientists can easily reconstruct specific genetic sequences that encode for proteins that are unique to the invading virus. In the COVID case, this is the familiar spike protein that enables the coronavirus to enter human cells.

    What mRNA vaccines do is prompt a few of your cells near the injection site to produce the spike protein. This then primes your immune system to build the antibodies and T-cells that will fight off the real coronavirus infection when it comes.

    It’s not hugely different from how traditional vaccines work. But instead of injecting a weakened live or killed virus, the mRNA approach trains your immune system directly with a single protein.

    Contrary to assertions made by opponents, it won’t turn you or anyone else into a Genetically Modified Organism. mRNA stays in the cytoplasm, where the ribosomes are. It does not enter the nucleus and cannot interact with your DNA or cause any changes to the genome. No Frankencure here, either.

    A variant of the mRNA approach is to go one step back in the process and construct a vaccine platform out of DNA instead. This DNA template — constructed by scientists to encode for the coronavirus spike protein — gets into cells where it is read into mRNA and… well the rest is the same.

    You might ask whether this DNA can genetically engineer your cells. Once again, the answer is no. DNA is injected in little circular pieces called “plasmids” — not to be confused with plastics — and while these do enter the nucleus, the new DNA does not integrate into your cellular genome.

    https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2020/12/yes-some-covid-vaccines-use-genetic-engineering-get-over-it/


  • MRNa won't reprogram my brain, I agree. I confirm your excellent description matches up with my own understanding.

    I should perhaps reveal that my own situation makes it far more unlikely that I will get exposed to Covid 19 than most people and theres a near zero chance I'll pass it on, so my main risk is personal injury or death from covid hiding on or in something that is delivered.

    Accordingly I believe I present zero risk to greater society and managing my own personal risk has worked for me every well so far in my avergaely long life. In addition I've a basically good immune system and baseline fitness, despiet smoking (which reduces ones risk of contracting covid, appparently the virus finds the tars to be an impediment) and that which does make to my ACE receptors, will find them full of zinc and my system possessing suffficent vitamin D reserves to mount an immediate defence. I trust teh FLCCC protocol more than I trust Dr Fauchi. 

    I see the Mrna as essentially "genetic software", and I'd prefer the boffins to get all the "service packs" squared away before I even consider "running it" on MY personal system. The rest of you can be "early adopters" if you like... 

  • What worries me about this approach, is it seems very specific, possibly even "limited in it's scope" and nature does not normally work that way. Is it really possible that one's body only identifies a single aspect of sars cov-19?

    With whole virus style vaccinations if possibel adn certainly with naturally acquired immunity it seems that your immune system would get to try all the approaches it has to managing this sort of problem. Or is the spike protein the only possible part of the virus that the immune system can recognise?  

    And since I'm given to understand it's always in the virus's interest to mutate to a non-lethal form, sooner or later when that weak version emerges (maybe even this new one), then acquiring natural immunity to Covid-19 will be much safer for all.. Maybe there IS going to be a reasonably quick end to this after all...


  • I see the Mrna as essentially "genetic software",


    On 11 January 2020, Chinese researchers published the genetic sequence of the ‘2019 novel coronavirus’. It took just 48 hours for Moderna to finalize the construct of its vaccine, and by February, it was shipped out for clinical trials.

    That speed can be credited to the way mRNA vaccines work; it is like injecting a software code into our cells. The mRNA directs the cell to synthesize a protein, in this case the spike protein of the coronavirus, and the protein factory in the cell mass produces it. Our cells, in turn, kick their immune system into high gear, and start producing antibodies. Once this minute amount of injected mRNA is over, the cells stop making that protein, but the immune response persists—to seek and destroy the covid virus if it dares trespass again.

    https://www.livemint.com/


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  • I see the Mrna as essentially "genetic software",


    On 11 January 2020, Chinese researchers published the genetic sequence of the ‘2019 novel coronavirus’. It took just 48 hours for Moderna to finalize the construct of its vaccine, and by February, it was shipped out for clinical trials.

    That speed can be credited to the way mRNA vaccines work; it is like injecting a software code into our cells. The mRNA directs the cell to synthesize a protein, in this case the spike protein of the coronavirus, and the protein factory in the cell mass produces it. Our cells, in turn, kick their immune system into high gear, and start producing antibodies. Once this minute amount of injected mRNA is over, the cells stop making that protein, but the immune response persists—to seek and destroy the covid virus if it dares trespass again.

    https://www.livemint.com/


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  • What worries me about this approach, is it seems very specific, possibly even "limited in it's scope" and nature does not normally work that way. Is it really possible that one's body only identifies a single aspect of sars cov-19?

    With whole virus style vaccinations if possibel adn certainly with naturally acquired immunity it seems that your immune system would get to try all the approaches it has to managing this sort of problem. Or is the spike protein the only possible part of the virus that the immune system can recognise?  

    And since I'm given to understand it's always in the virus's interest to mutate to a non-lethal form, sooner or later when that weak version emerges (maybe even this new one), then acquiring natural immunity to Covid-19 will be much safer for all.. Maybe there IS going to be a reasonably quick end to this after all...