god ??

as an old autiistic man i think extreamaly logically i can see no proof of god doz any one else on here feel the same way ?

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  • Agnostic. I had an emotional experience which I attributed to "god" then watched Derren Brown take a committed atheist through a conversion experience.

    "Honest to God" by AT Robinson, written in 1960, is a favourite of mine and caused quite a stir in the day. I have an old battered copy that I re-read occasionally. I've read a fair bit of theology and was in the charismatic movement for a while. Was glad to see the back of it. After a while I identified more with liberal theologians and (by traditional standards) the heretics. 

    Is there a "god"? Who knows? I'm not even sure if the definition means anything, or if there was one what that encounter would look like. What I can say is that after my time in circles where god was supposed to be an everyday reality, and spending more time in prayer lines than I have in bus queues, not one in-tune-with-god-pastor/evangelist spoke about my autism. They were very good at  quoting a scripture, or giving some meaningless "prophecy" - but anyone can do that. *I* did that. 

    When I found out I was on the spectrum. it was two decades later and everything made sense. More than religion ever did.  

    Having said that I appreciate the power of myth, ritual, meaning-making and storytelling. Druidry appeals because of the connection to nature and the seasons - I celebrated the winter solstice online this year and found it an enriching experience. Very fond of Quakerism too, only because of it's reflective nature and commitment to "doing good" - and their fantastic silent meeting where anyone can weigh in. Less about what you believe and more about what you do. I also do Tai Chi and attend humanist conferences. 

    So I'm open to mystery and wonder, how we create meaning from that, as well as facing the reality of living. In sense of a roadmap -I lean towards Ubuntu which is less about god and more about living well.

    But no tradition has a monopoly on my time.

  • ok very impresive but all the religins and doctrams are invented for people who agree that the emprisers new clothers are very fine !!

  • "Religions are invented to control people" is one of the views. It's a fairly compelling view as religion has tended to be quite good at keeping people 'in line' over many centuries.

    I wonder about the lack of anything after death. If there is nothing after death, then when the people that live after us die out and we get forgotten, was it all worth it?

    I guess some people think so.

  • Yes, ants on a rock, and those ants and us on a rotating rock moving through space.

    And yeah, autistics often see more than others in quite a lot of ways. 

  • when i was a small boy i rember turning a stone over in my grandmothers garden there were red ants invading a black ants nest now the ants had got no idea that thay were on a planet fiying through space and there were people watching them well thats a bit like us as autistics we can see more then most but we have noooo chance of compreanding every thing 

  • its the same as me emptying a glass of wine on the table its random

  • If it is a bizarre accident, what is it a bizarre accident of?

    As in where did the accident come from?

    The same question remains, I suppose, whether there's a god, a nothingness, or just a big question.

    And many of us ask of each other, why do we each believe or think the things we do.

  • i find it hard to beleave that you cant except that we life and every thing is just a bizzarre exedent why not ? we are here lets make the most of it and stop looking for reasons i 

  • Maybe that's how things will go.

    I find it a touch bizarre that anything should exist.

    If existence were just blank space, that would make more sense to me.

    Having atoms and stars, and gasses and elements, and plants, animals, bacteria and humans. This part makes me question the idea that the existence is a load of random flukes that happen over some space-time continuums.

    To me, existence is a very peculiar thing.

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  • Maybe that's how things will go.

    I find it a touch bizarre that anything should exist.

    If existence were just blank space, that would make more sense to me.

    Having atoms and stars, and gasses and elements, and plants, animals, bacteria and humans. This part makes me question the idea that the existence is a load of random flukes that happen over some space-time continuums.

    To me, existence is a very peculiar thing.

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