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Black Lives Matter Campaign

CaliforniaDreamer95

I know that in the current climate, that this subject is delicate and controversial overall. However, does anyone else feel that the "Black Lives Matter Campaign" has gone too far? I think that it should be "ALL Lives Matter".

Voice actors from many popular animated series are stepping down from their roles because "They are considered racist".

The MINORITY (I add in capital letters) of the black ethnicity of the population, seem to be using it as an excuse to commit acts of extreme public disorder and destruction of property for no good reason.

I can remember, as a small child, watching Tom and Jerry cartoons that had the character of Mammy Two Shoes. Of course, I was only about 6 at the time, and I was unaware of the subject of racism. I also, currently, watch classic British sitcoms such as "Love Thy Neighbour", Til' Death us Do Part", "In Sickness and In Health" among others, which WOULD NOT be shown today. I don't think that sitcoms such as this were ever meant to be offensive. They were simply meant to be funny. Many members of the cast of these sitcoms that were enemies ON-SCREEN, were actually best friends OFF-SCREEN. 

The American group "The Dixie Chicks" have changed their name.

The USA can't escape their historical connection to the Triangular Trade, and their Confederate history any more than the UK can. It wasn't a good period in either nations histories. However, we can take a lesson from those that are depicted in statues and other works of art, in the manner that "These people did this, don't make their mistakes".

I am a descendant of the generation of the "Baby-Boomers" that would often be considered to be racist. However, my parents don't care about a person's ethnicity, as long as THEY are treated with the same respect and dignity that they would give anyone else.

What are your views?

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  • To me this 'all lives matter'-creed seems to suggest that the public lynching of George Floyd was somehow just something that should not be questioned, We prefer to accept the status quo, to tell ourselves it's not so bad, it was just an accident. That's easier.

    Here in Belgium they're now thinking about the attrocities in the Congo under colonial rule. I think it's healthy for a society to take a bit of time to reflect on these things. To accept the lack of empathy and the suffering we caused. I think it's better to be sorry about this history and to try to avoid it in the future. 

    And a statue as such is a way to honour something. If you have a statue of a man on a horse, you are not telling people how cruel it was that he was using that horse for his own transportation.

  • in reply to MDC

    Exactly - and most of these statues are of people who did great things in their day - but that may be against today's morals - or they are to honour fallen soldiers.    The greatest thing a people can do is honour their old enemies.      History is always written by the victors but the people of the day deserve recognition.   I can guarantee that if you dig deeply enough, you can find something distasteful about any statue - but the point is to learn from it - not destroy it - but we are talking about the overthrowing of society, not the good or bad nature of a statue-  it's just mindless erasure of the past.

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  • in reply to MDC

    Exactly - and most of these statues are of people who did great things in their day - but that may be against today's morals - or they are to honour fallen soldiers.    The greatest thing a people can do is honour their old enemies.      History is always written by the victors but the people of the day deserve recognition.   I can guarantee that if you dig deeply enough, you can find something distasteful about any statue - but the point is to learn from it - not destroy it - but we are talking about the overthrowing of society, not the good or bad nature of a statue-  it's just mindless erasure of the past.

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  • in reply to Plastic

    To me communism and extreme unchecked capitalism are two ways to achieve the same goal, put most of the power in the hands of a small group, so I agree that extreme left is not really something to desire. 

    On the other hand, I'm afraid racism and the desire to have apartheid are still actual things in the us, so there is still room for improvement. I would like to live in a world where the guy who picks my coffeebeans is also making a decent living and his kids can go to college and go on vacations too. 

    We have a lot to thank the people who went through the trouble to have the French revolution, you know. In retrospect it was a muddy and soiled situation, but we got an important invention there: the citizen, the man with just one vote. This proved to be a mighty weapon against the more conservative states who still had a more feudal society. I think both China and the US today could use a bit more democracy in the mix.