Update on Talha Ahsan

ALADDIN said:

I know, the cases of Babar Ahmad and Talha Ahsan are interlinked, but we did not know a lot about Talha Ahsan unti 2011.

My local independent Asperger support group has been campaigning for Talha Ahsan for over two years after finding out that he is diagnosed with AS. After a very careful and thorough study of his case a decision was made to support him and join his campaign to stop the extradition.

In contrast, Talha Ahsan is a persona non grata at the local branch of the NAS and the officials are very effective at silencing and suppressing any discussion of him. I'm not sure whether it is just a local decision or whether they are following orders from the national senior figures.

I think extraditing, Babar and Talha, with Abu Hamza, Khalid Al-Fawwaz and Mr Bari, was very devious and nasty so that Gary's extradition could be blocked.

Gary's extradition decision date was delayed until October, so that Talha could have been extradited. I do not think a decision was done behind close doors for Gary McKinnon, the American government wanted him, he said to be the greatest hacker.

It's undeniable that the decision to block the extradition of Gary McKinnon was delayed until after the ECHR had given their verdict on the five Muslims and they were extradited. There was anger from the US government at the decision to block the extradition of Gary McKinnon but I can't help wondering whether it was artificial to cover over any suspicions that deals were done behind closed doors.

Alan Johnson, the last Labour Home Secretary wanted to extradite Gary McKinnon.

Alan Johnson's views were out on a limb at the time the decision by Theresa May to block the extradition of Gary McKinnon was made. There was reasonably broad support of the decision from Labour on the day. If Alan Johnson had still been Home Secretary then he would without any doubt have extradited Gary McKinnon but then he would also have extradited Talha Ahsan.

I suspected the extradition of Babar and Talha, are related to terrorist allegations

There could be issues of popular opinion at play. Although it is clearly evident that Gary McKinnon has committed a serious crime and he has admitted it, hacking into government computers is a somewhat tolerable action for a geeky individual with AS. In other words, he is a loveable rogue. Talha Ahsan only has allegations against him without any evidence to back them up and he says he is not guilty, but the majority of society hold the view that there is no smoke without fire, so have already concluded that he is a dangerous terrorist. 

If the N.A.S had supported Talha Ahsan, a lot of the members (parents of children who read the Daily Mail) will be dissatisfied, and complain to the Daily Mail.

Difficult to say really. There are probably just as many Guardian readers as there are Daily Mail readers in the NAS. I suppose there is the issue of popular opinion as described above.

There are a few people around who think that Gary McKinnon should have been extradited but Talha Ahsan shouldn't have been.

Membership of the N.A.S is  largely a white conservative middle class group.

I will also add to this that they are largely NT parents of children with traditional autism or recently diagnosed AS who have much faith in the school system and the government. Clued up parents of children and teenagers with high functioning AS tend to steer clear of the NAS.

If Talha Ahsan, dies in a USA prison (I hope he comes home), the American government are in trouble as well as the British government, I think the American media will focus on the case. I think it is very likely a prosecution of the Government if he dies will be successful because of the hard facts (very likely to commit suicide and similarities to Gary McKinnon).

If a suicide occurs then there will be an inquiry but whether anything results from it is a different matter. What I want to know is why is there a one year delay before his trial?

ALADDIN said:

I know, the cases of Babar Ahmad and Talha Ahsan are interlinked, but we did not know a lot about Talha Ahsan unti 2011.

My local independent Asperger support group has been campaigning for Talha Ahsan for over two years after finding out that he is diagnosed with AS. After a very careful and thorough study of his case a decision was made to support him and join his campaign to stop the extradition.

In contrast, Talha Ahsan is a persona non grata at the local branch of the NAS and the officials are very effective at silencing and suppressing any discussion of him. I'm not sure whether it is just a local decision or whether they are following orders from the national senior figures.

I think extraditing, Babar and Talha, with Abu Hamza, Khalid Al-Fawwaz and Mr Bari, was very devious and nasty so that Gary's extradition could be blocked.

Gary's extradition decision date was delayed until October, so that Talha could have been extradited. I do not think a decision was done behind close doors for Gary McKinnon, the American government wanted him, he said to be the greatest hacker.

It's undeniable that the decision to block the extradition of Gary McKinnon was delayed until after the ECHR had given their verdict on the five Muslims and they were extradited. There was anger from the US government at the decision to block the extradition of Gary McKinnon but I can't help wondering whether it was artificial to cover over any suspicions that deals were done behind closed doors.

Alan Johnson, the last Labour Home Secretary wanted to extradite Gary McKinnon.

Alan Johnson's views were out on a limb at the time the decision by Theresa May to block the extradition of Gary McKinnon was made. There was reasonably broad support of the decision from Labour on the day. If Alan Johnson had still been Home Secretary then he would without any doubt have extradited Gary McKinnon but then he would also have extradited Talha Ahsan.

I suspected the extradition of Babar and Talha, are related to terrorist allegations

There could be issues of popular opinion at play. Although it is clearly evident that Gary McKinnon has committed a serious crime and he has admitted it, hacking into government computers is a somewhat tolerable action for a geeky individual with AS. In other words, he is a loveable rogue. Talha Ahsan only has allegations against him without any evidence to back them up and he says he is not guilty, but the majority of society hold the view that there is no smoke without fire, so have already concluded that he is a dangerous terrorist. 

If the N.A.S had supported Talha Ahsan, a lot of the members (parents of children who read the Daily Mail) will be dissatisfied, and complain to the Daily Mail.

Difficult to say really. There are probably just as many Guardian readers as there are Daily Mail readers in the NAS. I suppose there is the issue of popular opinion as described above.

There are a few people around who think that Gary McKinnon should have been extradited but Talha Ahsan shouldn't have been.

Membership of the N.A.S is  largely a white conservative middle class group.

I will also add to this that they are largely NT parents of children with traditional autism or recently diagnosed AS who have much faith in the school system and the government. Clued up parents of children and teenagers with high functioning AS tend to steer clear of the NAS.

If Talha Ahsan, dies in a USA prison (I hope he comes home), the American government are in trouble as well as the British government, I think the American media will focus on the case. I think it is very likely a prosecution of the Government if he dies will be successful because of the hard facts (very likely to commit suicide and similarities to Gary McKinnon).

If a suicide occurs then there will be an inquiry but whether anything results from it is a different matter. What I want to know is why is there a one year delay before his trial?