Talha Ahsan extradited but not Gary Mckinnon both have aspergers

David said:

Yes I agree that Gary Mckinnon should not have been extradited.

Partly as Gary has Asperger Syndrome the crime was commited on British soil and he would be punished disproportionatly.  Gary was not involved in terrorisim.

Why should having Aspeger's have anything to do with it?

Oh, and the crime was not commited "on British soil", it was commited "in cyberspace", and the servers he hacked in to were "on American soil" - the international laws on hacking are explicitely worded in such a way that is the location of the server(s) being hacked that is important, not the location of the hacker, because otherwise a hacker could simply sit in international waters, or on enemy soil, and be entirely untouchable by the laws of the nations they were attacking.

David said:

Threatning to commit suicide should be no reason for not extraditing Gary.

It is the only reason not to extradite him - because to have extradited him would have contravened is human rights.

David said:

Any body could say to a Judge your honour if you send me to prision I will commit suicide.  If I were a judge I would give that prisoner extra for contempt of Court.

It is not simply a case of saying "I'll commit suicide if you send me to prison" it's a case of expert psychologists assessing one to be at an unduly high risk of committing suicide if extradited.

David said:

When I was a little boy of nine nearly fifty years ago I threatened to commit suicide while a patient at the Maudsley on the way to swimming.

But you didn't.

And that's the point - trained practitioners can tell the difference between someone who is truly suicidal and someone who is merely saying they'll kill themselves for effect.

David said:

Yes I agree that Gary Mckinnon should not have been extradited.

Partly as Gary has Asperger Syndrome the crime was commited on British soil and he would be punished disproportionatly.  Gary was not involved in terrorisim.

Why should having Aspeger's have anything to do with it?

Oh, and the crime was not commited "on British soil", it was commited "in cyberspace", and the servers he hacked in to were "on American soil" - the international laws on hacking are explicitely worded in such a way that is the location of the server(s) being hacked that is important, not the location of the hacker, because otherwise a hacker could simply sit in international waters, or on enemy soil, and be entirely untouchable by the laws of the nations they were attacking.

David said:

Threatning to commit suicide should be no reason for not extraditing Gary.

It is the only reason not to extradite him - because to have extradited him would have contravened is human rights.

David said:

Any body could say to a Judge your honour if you send me to prision I will commit suicide.  If I were a judge I would give that prisoner extra for contempt of Court.

It is not simply a case of saying "I'll commit suicide if you send me to prison" it's a case of expert psychologists assessing one to be at an unduly high risk of committing suicide if extradited.

David said:

When I was a little boy of nine nearly fifty years ago I threatened to commit suicide while a patient at the Maudsley on the way to swimming.

But you didn't.

And that's the point - trained practitioners can tell the difference between someone who is truly suicidal and someone who is merely saying they'll kill themselves for effect.