maybe one explanation for autistic people being gaslighted by neurotypicals

I have actually been doing some observational research on this, I am quite analytical. 

They prefer to force the situation into what they consider to be their favor as they cannot rationale how internalised nd behaviour is (its illegible to them).

I had an incident on a bus the otherday when I was waiting to get off and a middle aged '' woman was pushing me from behind, as I moved off she deliberately barged past me. I felt she identified that I was nd and did not like it. That kind of hostility is every day at any point. For young nd men/boys its always suprising when mature women do this. If I am completely honest I remember nursery workers and classroom assistants at primary school being verbally vicious. Its inherant and pervasive.

I think its amusing (if I didn't I woulnt be here) because I worked hard all the way through school and work and people were systematically trying to obstruct and mislead me. examples:

• Being told I wouldnt be able to take a levels or ever get to university - I now have a masters degree 
• Being criticised by teachers told I was ugly or stupid
• Having my work sabotaged in the office workplace
• Not being paid by employers (under contract) having cheques bounce, or having my national insurance paid
• Being gaslit by female managers and cooworkers

We all know what they are doing. Entire industries are underperforming at such a mediocre level, and workplaces are complicit. 

I am absolutely clear now people were obstructing me at every level of my education and career. Although I cannot prove there was complicity in each location I know these were not isolated events. The lack of openmindeness they have (like they all share the same brain) I don't let it shock me but it is an injustice when people behave that way and are not reprimanded.

I figure that what you are saying is that people have conspired against you pietro_21  

I too have had this sense.

The tricky thing is as you suggest it is hard to prove their complicity.

It's also hard to know if one is being paranoid,or  gaslighted as being autistic potentially one might not have the tools to know it is taking place!!

I suspect it is simple prejudice rather than a deliberate personal vendetta with me.  I haven't been that nasty to people (as far as I'm aware!)

I  have been enough of a thorn in the side of plenty of neurotypical people by the nature if my not reining myself in when I see something that I think is wrong or unfair.  So I could be a potentially be a target of conspiracy.  Hehe - how would I know none of them talk to me openly anyway because I don't/can't play the game the way they want/expect me to.

Also I know I've said things, say things that people have been offended by (that I only realise to have bee the case when I see their side of it after the fact)

If I go with the widely promoted model of autism challenges with communication, sensory overload, and social understanding are leading me to feelings of confusion or fear.

Or as you say most neurotypicals are all in it together colluding to be mediocre and watching society and the planet go to hell in a handcart and consider autistic people like me an annoyance and a nuisance...

I think being confused so much really helps us be clever!  

Well done on your achievements and as the dog Latin puts it "Non Illigitimi Carborundum!" :-)

Thanks. I can tell you have a sense of humour. There are so many facets to this. I do think nt people I can identify have little imagination of their own and ability to think outside the box. The workaround they have found for this is to either steal ideas and jobs, or huddle together as a group and use force to do the same.

To some degree I have felt heavy handed pressure directed against me when in these environments.I don’t allow myself to feel victimised but this causes me anxiety as being the number one  ‘unsolvable’ problem in my world. However it frustrates me that not enough people see or do anything about it. 

I have run it through numerous supposedly intelligent ai primes they all rationalise it as normal.

It needs to be treated no differently to any other kind of discrimination. In terms of children and young workers I believe bullying can have a detrimental affect on their outlook which can affect their whole lives leading them to blame themselves. If you asked me what do I think is the number one reason for introverted or nd people committing suicide this would be it.

It scares me a bit because we have limited time on the planet and If you view life chances in terms of time then these people are wasting time, yours and mine. We can’t see round corners and I believe nd have and are being blinkered in lots of ways, morally and legally.

We are all preconditioned from birth and the moment we start to learn. I also question to what degree we are all preconditioned to subscribe to the ‘normal’’ world (as NTS are clearly in control of the media) and how much this is interfered with, or necessary. If you use mindfulness you can get a much clearer on this. I don’t watch tv and I have noticed another world- similar I suppose to the world in John Carpenters ‘They Live’.

this isn’t me thinking to myself people are getting in my way, this is me observing oh my god that is wilful complicity on a mass scale. Manipulate andI don’t go into the reasons for hate or ignorance if it is directed at me. I keep my respect for other people in check so I know it is not justified in most cases and people are doing it to gratify themselves. I have played the office game but they didn’t want me in it, so I am not going to pander or degrade myself.

Mostly how I have felt about this as an adult is that. If you exclude potential competitors entry to the game there is no real competion. This is what is happening, workplace, media, public life its affected everything its why the world is mediocre. Someone might say its always been this way or these things run in cycles. Really the societal problems now are because we have continued with flawed systems, instead of rethinking.

Unpicking what modern humans need to learn quickly from how things have always been done is an enigma.

We should be looking for the truth not building on lies.

yes, understood

In any situation where economic pressures increase prejudice increases too

Effects of Prejudice | Research Starters | EBSCO Research

so increased mental health pressures on autistic people 

increased prejudice because of how that effects us

all spirals somewhat 

to bring our conversation back to the original thread pietro_21 just when society needs people who see it like it is and tell it like it is they are increasingly rejected...

yes, understood

In any situation where economic pressures increase prejudice increases too

Effects of Prejudice | Research Starters | EBSCO Research

so increased mental health pressures on autistic people 

increased prejudice because of how that effects us

all spirals somewhat 

to bring our conversation back to the original thread pietro_21 just when society needs people who see it like it is and tell it like it is they are increasingly rejected...