maybe one explanation for autistic people being gaslighted by neurotypicals

"Gaslighting is the manipulation by psychological means of a person (or group) which causes them to doubt themselves, their capabilities or their sense of reality. "

I recently came across this article Cognitive Dissonance and Autism | The Neurodivergent Brain

I came out of it understanding that according to the article...

Memories of events stay the same however interpretation of why things happened as they did can change, this is a more "autistic way" of how to settle mental confusion. 

Neurotypical people on the other hand are more likely to change their memories of things to settle the confusion.

So when a neurotypical person gives a version of events that completely is at odds with what autistic people recall happening which consequently "gaslights" the autistic person this might explain it.

I have to say that for myself this has a sense of authenticity about it.

Or am I just deluding myself as much as the article accuses neurotypical people of doing to themselves?

Thought anyone please?

Parents
  • Ugh I have had too much gaslighting over the years! I’ve been told by so many people I’m not as happy as I think, if I’m happy why should I be because it’s not as if I’m rich unlike the Fing kardashians or these people who boast their lives of luxury over social media or whatever. If I was nice looking how come I’ve never been on a date? How come no company has approached me? Etc etc! If I say I don’t find someone attractive, then apparently I do think their attractive but I’m too jealous to admit it and they have hot girlfriends or wives that I deep down aspire to look like. Now I can’t think of these people as gormless because apparently I’m the gormless ugly fat one (sorry I’m ranting again). My mum always used to pass comment on how I always looked like some sort of goddess character and how many people have said that I am apparently stunning but apparently those people who have said nice things have just said that to make me feel better but are lying to me. These horrible gaslighters said I look nothing like all these characters or that because I’m fatter and uglier, flatter chested, thin lips etc and all these ones I’m jealous of are like the beautiful characters and goddesses etc. but those people have had work done to them but I’ve been told they haven’t and they are blessed with beauty. Even if I had work done to myself I would look awful compared to other who would have work done. Sorry for my rant and forgive me if I’ve made anyone feel uncomfortable, I can have this removed if needed. 

  • I think the world has some sort of psychosis, that because we might not be interested in 'beauty' and 'fashion' as women, we are somehow faulty. I didn't have girls clothes till I went to Uni and I think that was masking. Now I have 'female' cuts of clothes, but they have bird species etc. I have one with different moths including a cinnabar.

  • I always wear baggier clothing because I’m so self conscious of clingy clothes, plush I hate the feel of the clinginess anyway! I don’t like to wear anything low cut or dresses either because of this shop manager always look up or down my dress. Then when I worse the baggier stuff he complained saying I look frumpy but he complained saying I looked a tart wearing a knee high dress with a somewhat scoop neck and I needed to cover my unsightly legs and body. So much for getting fit, I thought I was getting in good shape. 

  • I keep busting into laughter every time I look at your post. 

    Absolutely brilliant.

  • this next reply comes with a warning as it involves cruelty to cats

    however this springs to mind based on your reply  

    A study published back in 1970 showed that kittens brought up in a lab with only vertical lines couldn't see horizontal and vice versa.

    "Brain development is clearly affected by early experiences and environmental factors rather than just genetics and there is clear evidence of brain plasticity – ‘the visual experience of these animals had modified their brain’ and therefore has serious perceptual consequences. The kittens’ visual cortex adjusts during development as a result of its visual experiences."

    Blakemore and Cooper (1970) | Reference Library | Psychology | tutor2u

    This sort of thing makes it pretty clear how important early life is for us all.  (although there s plenty of evidence that brain plasticity - literally changing one's mind, in many ways, is possible later on)

    Hehe as for the stupid behaviour of those you encounter "I blame the parents" might be pretty close to the mark...

  • Don't people hate it when you're proved right? I tend to go blundering in where angels fear to tread, naming every elephant in the room, this is one reason why I'd never go into politics, I'm a diplomatic incedent waiting to happen, lol.

    One of my standard responses to people who try and tell me I'm autistic because I've been vacinated is, 'yes dear you believe that if it makes you happy'. they usually tell me it dosen't make them happy, to which I respond by telling them to, 'stop believing it then!'. It's either that or find a really stupid question to ask them, like asking someone who believes the earth is flat, how come cats haven't knocked everything off the edge?

    I'm afraid that with the terminally stupid I live up to my name and bat them around like a toy mouse, I can't help it, they just need winding up until they go away.

  • Joy Honestly, I think it's an epidemic!

  • I blooming well hope not!! lol! I might not be the brains of britain but I know when someone is trying to trick people. Say these people who gaslighted me never believed in vaccines but I bet if it wasn’t a jab form they’d have it. 

  • Sounds like an **** too. It's okay, it's not contagious. I think.

  • Rofl if there is a vaccine for being an a*** then that will defo help but I bet these people will be too stubborn to have the jab or whatever form it comes in. 

  • Well put it this way, my autisticness as been beneficial as I have been able to see through people like this shop manager or aunty etc, but it takes me forever to convince others and they always think I’m losing it until these horrible ones show their true colours! I mean I’ve even been gaslighted for having a gaming addiction because this lad on a course said he had one and then he said I have one.

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  • Well put it this way, my autisticness as been beneficial as I have been able to see through people like this shop manager or aunty etc, but it takes me forever to convince others and they always think I’m losing it until these horrible ones show their true colours! I mean I’ve even been gaslighted for having a gaming addiction because this lad on a course said he had one and then he said I have one.

Children
  • I keep busting into laughter every time I look at your post. 

    Absolutely brilliant.

  • this next reply comes with a warning as it involves cruelty to cats

    however this springs to mind based on your reply  

    A study published back in 1970 showed that kittens brought up in a lab with only vertical lines couldn't see horizontal and vice versa.

    "Brain development is clearly affected by early experiences and environmental factors rather than just genetics and there is clear evidence of brain plasticity – ‘the visual experience of these animals had modified their brain’ and therefore has serious perceptual consequences. The kittens’ visual cortex adjusts during development as a result of its visual experiences."

    Blakemore and Cooper (1970) | Reference Library | Psychology | tutor2u

    This sort of thing makes it pretty clear how important early life is for us all.  (although there s plenty of evidence that brain plasticity - literally changing one's mind, in many ways, is possible later on)

    Hehe as for the stupid behaviour of those you encounter "I blame the parents" might be pretty close to the mark...

  • Don't people hate it when you're proved right? I tend to go blundering in where angels fear to tread, naming every elephant in the room, this is one reason why I'd never go into politics, I'm a diplomatic incedent waiting to happen, lol.

    One of my standard responses to people who try and tell me I'm autistic because I've been vacinated is, 'yes dear you believe that if it makes you happy'. they usually tell me it dosen't make them happy, to which I respond by telling them to, 'stop believing it then!'. It's either that or find a really stupid question to ask them, like asking someone who believes the earth is flat, how come cats haven't knocked everything off the edge?

    I'm afraid that with the terminally stupid I live up to my name and bat them around like a toy mouse, I can't help it, they just need winding up until they go away.

  • I blooming well hope not!! lol! I might not be the brains of britain but I know when someone is trying to trick people. Say these people who gaslighted me never believed in vaccines but I bet if it wasn’t a jab form they’d have it. 

  • Sounds like an **** too. It's okay, it's not contagious. I think.