Deep sleep and weird dreams

Now it's cooler at night I'm sleeping really deeply and having some bizarre dreams, even by my standards! The other night my cat Boris and I wandered all over Istanbul!

However I'm still waking up feeling tired and I'm wondering if it's because I'm catching up with proper sleep after being deprived of it since about May, or if I'm exhausted because of the intense dreaming?

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  • As a bit of a cross over from what   raises in discussion re: insight into subconscious that may be gained from dreams....

    And  saying "Yep that is weird".

    The "weird sisters" are figures in mythology and literature who represent fate, often portrayed as 3 sisters. In classical mythology, they are the Moirai (Greek) or Parcae (Roman), who spin, measure, and cut the thread of life.

    In Shakespeare's Macbeth, the "Weird Sisters" are three witches whose prophecies influence the main character's destiny, drawing on the Old English word for fate,  "wyrd".

    In Macbeth they are prophesying doom for Macbeth who stole the crown from the rightful king.  :-(

    In a delightful twist to this the author Terry Pratchett has his "Wyrd Sisters" prophecies involve revealing the true king and ensuring that they take their throne from the one who has stolen it. :-)

    In some religious or spiritual traditions dreams are able to pass on divine information and predictions of the future - just like the mythological weird/wyrd sisters do.

    From the "scientific" perspective of psychology and sociology one's drams may be a way of one's subconscious trying to pass on a message to the conscious mind.

    An interesting thought occurs to me as to whether it is necessary to "decode" the dream of its symbolism in order to have its effect on raising things to consciousness and therefore potentially alter behaviour.

    ie. dreaming of a big ship that is about to run one over and thinking, hmmm... maybe I should pay attention to that threat I have been ignoring because my dream is telling me I should.

    or on a more happy basis dreaming of opening a cupboard and finding a treasure and thinking, hmmm... maybe I should pay attention to the opportunities I have been ignoring because my dream is telling me I should. 

    Maybe the dreams we don't remember are all nicely sorted interactions between subconscious and conscious and so we don't need to be aware of them?  Or maybe they are ones we're not ready to be aware of yet?

    My personal experience is that having the dreams that are experienced consciously means that maybe the message hasn't fully been assimilated yet. Maybe because I wake up in the middle of it for one reason or another.  This reason could be being externally disturbed (alarm etc,) or internally - something inside of me wants me to "wake up" to this.

    Plus not having the subconscious message assimilated or "resolved" appears to be the case with some of the dreams which repeat again and again maybe?

    My own observations of this is that people I know quite well have told me dreams and I have been able to "work out" a possible symbolism of their dream based on what I know about them and their circumstances.  I've observed that sometimes when I tell them this it helps explain things and sometimes it doesn't....

    People have to be ready to understand things including their own dreams perhaps.  Maybe this depends upon both their internal and external environment and resources allowing them to realise them?  Maybe this helps one recognise and adjust to or alter one's fate?

    Hehe - maybe it is just weird!  

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  • As a bit of a cross over from what   raises in discussion re: insight into subconscious that may be gained from dreams....

    And  saying "Yep that is weird".

    The "weird sisters" are figures in mythology and literature who represent fate, often portrayed as 3 sisters. In classical mythology, they are the Moirai (Greek) or Parcae (Roman), who spin, measure, and cut the thread of life.

    In Shakespeare's Macbeth, the "Weird Sisters" are three witches whose prophecies influence the main character's destiny, drawing on the Old English word for fate,  "wyrd".

    In Macbeth they are prophesying doom for Macbeth who stole the crown from the rightful king.  :-(

    In a delightful twist to this the author Terry Pratchett has his "Wyrd Sisters" prophecies involve revealing the true king and ensuring that they take their throne from the one who has stolen it. :-)

    In some religious or spiritual traditions dreams are able to pass on divine information and predictions of the future - just like the mythological weird/wyrd sisters do.

    From the "scientific" perspective of psychology and sociology one's drams may be a way of one's subconscious trying to pass on a message to the conscious mind.

    An interesting thought occurs to me as to whether it is necessary to "decode" the dream of its symbolism in order to have its effect on raising things to consciousness and therefore potentially alter behaviour.

    ie. dreaming of a big ship that is about to run one over and thinking, hmmm... maybe I should pay attention to that threat I have been ignoring because my dream is telling me I should.

    or on a more happy basis dreaming of opening a cupboard and finding a treasure and thinking, hmmm... maybe I should pay attention to the opportunities I have been ignoring because my dream is telling me I should. 

    Maybe the dreams we don't remember are all nicely sorted interactions between subconscious and conscious and so we don't need to be aware of them?  Or maybe they are ones we're not ready to be aware of yet?

    My personal experience is that having the dreams that are experienced consciously means that maybe the message hasn't fully been assimilated yet. Maybe because I wake up in the middle of it for one reason or another.  This reason could be being externally disturbed (alarm etc,) or internally - something inside of me wants me to "wake up" to this.

    Plus not having the subconscious message assimilated or "resolved" appears to be the case with some of the dreams which repeat again and again maybe?

    My own observations of this is that people I know quite well have told me dreams and I have been able to "work out" a possible symbolism of their dream based on what I know about them and their circumstances.  I've observed that sometimes when I tell them this it helps explain things and sometimes it doesn't....

    People have to be ready to understand things including their own dreams perhaps.  Maybe this depends upon both their internal and external environment and resources allowing them to realise them?  Maybe this helps one recognise and adjust to or alter one's fate?

    Hehe - maybe it is just weird!  

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