Social Anxiety and fear of job interviews

(First things first, just want to warn you this might be a bit of a long one as I've got a lot to get off my chest when it comes to these topics)

So, I guess I've been wanting to talk about this for a while but never found the right time or opportunity to bring it up. But I've recently been going through a sort of stressful situation which is relevant to the topic in question and I suppose I now feel ready to talk about it. This is about my anxiety and how it's been blocking me in the job market

• MY SOCIAL ANXIETY
Ever since I was a child, I'd always been socially awkward and struggled to make friends. But then I reached high school and that's when things went slightly downhill. It began when someone whom I saw as a friend betrayed me in the most awful way back then (but I'm not ready to get into that story quite yet). Anyways, that was just the start of it, as even though I still had a few acquaintances at school who were nice, the trust I had in meeting new people was slowly diminishing.

It was only once I left school and started going to college that that was when I started experiencing social anxiety. That chapter in your life which some if not most regular people would find exciting... was really scary and overwhelming for me. Not only was I in a whole new environment but of course NEW PEOPLE. I mean, at least when you move from primary school to high school, you're bound to see at least maybe a couple of people from your year to follow you to the same high school right? But college, you'd be lucky to find at least 2 or 3 familiar faces at most in the same campus as yourself. What didn't help was my parents would sometimes tell me to not talk about certain favourite topics of mine as they said that my peers might laugh and tease me for it. Now before you judge them, I should point out that when they said these things to me it wasn't out of horrible intentions, it's just that after the horrible time I suffered the first few years of high school, they'd become a little protective of me and I guess they were worried it might happen again and they just wanted me to fit in. So, in some weird, messed up sort of way they thought they were protecting me when they were telling me what tobsay and what NOT to talk about with my peers. But unfortunately with those words, it only made me more anxious and increasingly insecure. Don't get me wrong, some people in the courses who were nice enough and treated me nicely but it never extended further than that as most of the free time I had I just kept to myself.

And from that point, my social anxiety has only just gotten worse over the years as I've gotten older. It's now gotten to the point where even the idea of having to be in a room full of strangers fills me with dread and I've lost count of the number of times I suffered a panic attack when I was sorta forced into a situation where I had to be mixed in with strangers. Scenarios like that for is the equivalent of being thrown into a lions den and they're lions stalking me, observing me to find my weaknesses, getting ready to tear me apart. I also struggle to make eye contact as it feels like if I stare too long it's like they can look into my soul. Honestly, it's like... I feel like I'm an alien from a different planet, while everyone else is human and trying to make small talk is like trying to learn a different language, it's such an awful feeling. I just don't know how normal humans find it so easy!

• Struggles securing a job
Unfortunately having social anxiety means that getting into work has been a massive struggle. Even reaching out for a volunteer job is scary because of the fact that it means I have to approach someone and talk to them first which fills me with dread. What makes it worse is when people on the outside judge and think that if you're deliberately avoiding trying to find a job then that means you're lazy and work-shy.

I want to set the record straight and say that that is not the case because there was a point where I did actually manage to get and was working a part time job which yes, some days were harder than others but I was lucky to have very understanding bosses who very patient and nice. It's just unfortunate that it was only on a temporary 6 month contract and then I had to leave and then within weeks after that was when COVID happened and that's when things more difficult. My point is I am able to get to work on tasks and things like that so am anything but work-shy. But the only reason I managed to get the job in the first place was because my former employer was someone I knew (Former teacher who taught me at college) and I never went through an actual interview process... which is where the real issue lies.

I remember the first ever job interview I ever had and it was the most awful and humiliating experience I ever had. So myself and another candidate were chosen as the final two and we were asked to come together to be interviewed at the same time which I thought was unusual. But the minute we both walked into that meeting room, I knew they had already made up their minds just by the ways the interviewer looked at us both. While they were asking the other candidate all questions and giving them a proper interview, I was barely talked to and I was only asked 2 whole questions with a look their face as I was a bad smell. Then there came the stage of the interview process where they wanted to see us both in action. Honestly it was so nerve racking as they seemed to hover over me, watching me like a Hawk, like they were waiting for me to mess up. Well, I don't to explain any further to tell you that I DIDN'T get that job. Family and loved supported by saying that it was prejudiced anyways because the company I applied to work for was a rather posh and stuck up establishment... but it still didn't make me feel better.

That experience really scarred me as I've only ever had 1 job interview since then and that was a total disaster. We only started with a couple of questions when I then got stuck on question which I didn't understand and I started panicking. It was so bad that I could actually hear my Heartbeat so loud like it was in my head, I felt a dizzy and my stomach churned that I started feeling like I was going to be physically sick. I tried to hold back all those feeling just trying to get through the interview but unfortunately that only made it worse as afterwards, I had to discreetly rush to the nearest toilet where I was almost physically sick. It was so embarrassing. I've been afraid of job interviews since and even my job coach says that it's sounds as if I'm suffering from job interview trauma. The only way I can describe the fear I have is that it feels like I'm being interrogated and like they're trying to catch me out, find my weaknesses so they can use that to destroy me.

So, that's it, that's my experience with having social anxiety and the obstacles it gives me. Once again I apologise for this being an extremely long one and I'm sorry if I've bored some of you... I guess I just thought if I talked about it here then maybe I'd feel less alone as I feel like don't have anyone else to talk about at home as my parents just don't understand what it's like to live with that fear.

Does anybody else also struggle meeting new people and making friends?

Do you suffer social anxiety too?

If so what's it like for you?

  • The way I see it is that to certain people being a teacher is a job, it’s one they may be academically perfect for but the reality is that they do not have the right skills or moral motivation to deal with the social issues that come with the job. They go into it perhaps wanting career success and social status or maybe even they don’t want to ruin their relationship with mummy and daddy who paid their university fees. Teachers are people just like the pupils they teach after all with their own lives and experiences, they are not perfect although this does not excuse the neglect caused by their indifference. After all if someone was treated at home the way bullies treat other children and the adults repeatedly failed to stop it, you’d certainly blame those care givers/parents. It would almost certainly also be a legal issue as much as a moral one. Schools are institutions that are allowed a lot more grace and not rightly so. 

  • It makes me so angry when I hear stories like this where teachers and school faculties don't do anything they just say "oh just ignore them and they'll stop"... but most of the time they don't it just riles them up to push our buttons more and then when the victims have then had enough and then do decide to fight back, it's somehow THEM who gets into trouble and somehow they're now the bad guy?!...

    what kind of justice is that?! It's an utter joke, apologies it's just that stories like this make me so upset and angry for victims 

  • It was a very confusing time for me, why would my only friends I’d ever known turn their backs on me and not be there when I needed them the most. It was a cold and harsh lesson to learn. Bullies naturally pick on those who they perceive as different but there’s always that question of what did I do? This guy really hated me and I never knew a thing about why. Schools are not very good at all when dealing with bullies, there is an unspoken truth that they do not see it as part of their job to fix it. The amount of people I’ve known with similar stories and it’s always the same “the school did nothing”. 

  • The only way I can describe the fear I have is that it feels like I'm being interrogated

    It has helped me to remind myself the "interrogation" is not just one way or one direction. 

    I try to consider the interview as also my opportunity to "interrogate" the organisation or company too. 

    OK, they might have the greater share of the air time in an interview - but I ought not to leave an interview feeling it was all just one way. 

    I try to be disciplined and explore my information requirements within the interview too 

  • I think the problems with interviews are:

    1. Fear of the unknown/newness
    2. Not being in control
    3. Talking about yourself
    4. Fear of failure/ too much pressure 

    A coach, or practice interviews will help with 1.

    You can predict some of the types of questions and prepare answers. But you also have to be comfortable saying I don't know or I don't understand. If they do a competency based interview style they will ask for example of where you demonstrated certain things. Before I knew about this I found them very hard. But you can prepare for these. 

    Selling yourself is hard. I am not good at it. I undersell myself. I think this can be improved by preparation, listing what you can do, your skills and achievements and working out how to highlight them

    You have to play mind games with point 4. You have to think it's not that important to able to relax a bit. If it does not work it's because you are better suited to something else, not that you are wrong.

  • I really struggle with social anxiety but  most significantly in social settings when the focal point is all about socialising. I think this all comes back to my life experiences and past failures. 

    I do also struggle with meeting new people, approaching people particularly those I don't know as well and that kind of thing.

    Job interviews do make me very anxious. 1. Because it involves meeting new people. 2. It involves a lot of interaction. 3. The spot light is on me. 4. I have a fear of failure and it is something I can fail at.

    Possibly fortunately for me, my anxiety actually drives me to mask so hard I tend to do very well in an interview situation. I absolutely understand how awful the anxiety can be though. I do always think the people that interviewed me must get a shock when they saw confident me on the interview day and then incredibly anxious me on my first day of work 

    It's very good that you have a job coach though. Are they able to support you in a job interview as a reasonable adjustment? I only wonder as I know this is something that Access to Work offers to help people get into work. It's not a service I've used so I don't know how good it is or how easy it is to get. I know for other things from access to work the wait time is really long but I think if a date is set they push things through.

  • Hi

    I'm so sorry that happened to you. I was in a sort of similar situation though luckily it never got as far as turning to violence. But the part where you're trying to stand up for yourself and then people not stepping in to defend you... that had happened to me too. In my honest opinion, no matter what their reason/excuse was at the time, the fact they didn't try to stick up for you when you needed them the most, it clearly shows they weren't true friends

    It's situations like which I think show a person's true nature and who you're real friends are. I don't know if this makes you feel better about it but my point is I know exactly how it feels

  • Hello, I also experienced something similar in secondary school in the first year. I had a small circle of friends from primary school who were also with me in secondary school, there was also one friend who I wasn’t that close to but he was from my primary school also. This one particular lad took it upon himself to put me down in anyway he could, comments on my clothes, my living arrangements, my lack of a father, would call me names in the class room. I tried to ignore it as best I could but it came to a head when we got into a physical fight. He kept pushing me and pushing me to fight him even though all I could say was that I didn’t want to until he pushed me one too many times so I did end up hitting him. All my closest friends, the ones I’d grown up with from primary school did not take my side, did not defend me. I don’t know if this is due to them not wanting to rock the new school boy boat but it certainly held up to my slow rationalisation that there must be something wrong with me. I must be subhuman, I must be less than everyone else. It was an utter shock to my system, suddenly I’m all alone on the playground in a whole new world that I haven’t got a clue how to navigate. In a brand new school with much higher expectations. I took my friends betrayal like a hammer to the ego. Did I expect too much from them really? These were constant people in my life, right from reception year upwards. The school as expected didn’t clear this issue up even after multiple attempts so I left secondary school education. I couldn’t face being stuck in a system, stuck in a classroom which strangers. Panic and anxiety were the new norm every time school was mentioned. 

  • Hello there WitchyPrincess!

    As an employment specialist myself, I’m very, very happy to hear that you have a job coach, especially considering your history with job interviews. That’s horrible that you had an experience where the interviewers essentially wanted you to fail, as from my experience usually interviewers want to see you do well. I hope the job coach has been a help.

    Now normally I would advise not to disclose your diagnoses in an interview unless you feel really comfortable doing so, but in this case one thing you can do is say something to the effect of: “I have social anxiety, but as you can see I can do my best to overcome that.” That would notify the potential employer that you may struggle with answering some questions and at the same time make it clear that you are able to work through the anxiety. The latter is important, as many jobs require a certain level of socialization, so seeing that you can work through the anxiety could be commendable in their eyes.

  • Hello WitchyPrincess06,

    Thank you for posting and telling the community about your social anxiety. We do have some information on the NAS site about anxiety. Here is the link: https://www.autism.org.uk/advice-and-guidance/topics/mental-health/anxiety

    Wishing you all the best,

    Karin Mod

  • We are very similar, I have social anxiety too and have always struggled making friends. Just know you are not alone and there are people you can talk to here that understand. Job interviews are the worst, the panic attacks are awful. I’m starting to accept the fact that I’ll never be able to work and hold down a job, which does make me feel pretty useless but it is what it is. We just have to try and be kind to ourselves and accept the fact that we are disabled so our lives will look different to others. I try to focus on the things I enjoy which is a good distraction and I don’t really talk much to new people, I’ve just accepted that I’ll never have many friends but I have joined some social autism groups to meet other people like me and made one friend from that. Maybe you could try to find a social group like that in your area?

  • Thanks for your post. It struck a chord with me in so many ways.

    I did not / could not make friends easy as I find the effort it takes to maintain a friendship is very taxing. So now in my fifties and no friends except one and my partner.

    I get anxious around people as I have spent the last 40 odd years living in a my protective bubble but now realise how destructive it has been for me. Also I eventually realised that after 40 years my so called best friend was actually controlling and using me. This makes trust a very big issue.

    Regarding work and interviews: I am terrible at interviews. I have lost count of the amount of interviews I have had over the years but been unsuccessful. I am usually thrown by a question and because my processing time is quite long I usually jump straight into what I think was said and get it wrong or I am like a rabbit in the headlights. I suffer from imposter syndrome and can be very defensive so not to show any *** of a weakness that might be used against me.

    If I can give you any advice please try to make and keep friends as it is a very lonely existence when you reach my age. I understand how hard that is  to contemplate but if you can find one or two true friends who accept you for you without judgement then you will have a support network for when times are bad.

    Best of luck