Why do so many men and boys hate women?

Counter terrorism officers are joing with collegues from the NCA to create a task force to catch boys and young men being radicalised into extreme misogynist acts, like school shootings and finding vulnerable young women and girls online and encouraging suicide.

I don't accept that social media is the root of it all, it certainly helps it spread, but I think those attitudes have been around for years, centuries, even millenia. Where does this sense of entitlement come from and how do we protect women and girls from male violence and how do we protect men and boys from these influences and challenge them to see women as people?

  • Before the facts of life about how babies are made was understood, generally all the gods and deities were female. Once people understood that it takes one man to make a woman pregnant, men realised they need a woman to carry their bloodline. Society completely changed and men became dominant.  Now I think it is because in the main, men are absolutely terrified of women. Generally they are smarter than men have better communication skills, endurance to keep going that most men could never dream of, they are more skilled at manipulation. They are also scared that a woman can choose her sexual partners by whom to get pregnant. And she is perfectly capable (they don't necessarily do) of getting pregnant by a rival male. 

    The only area where men excel is having a longer arm and heavier punch.  

  • Womens N Girlz shouldn't facing discrimination and plus abusing this is disgraceful most boys thinking sex attraction at girls which is unacceptable respect womens respect girls

  • Thank you Gina. I feel very discriminated against here. I think it's good that you are enforcing these rules here. It's not good to discriminated against anyone for any reason. I prefer to view all people as equals. And as I stated I think not all men should be put in the category of violent or dangerous. Because most men are fine and don't hate women at all. So yeh less discrimination on here the better. Let's all view eachother as friends instead of enemies here.

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  • While there is a deeply unwelcome men and boys subset of society who exhibit misogynistic: attitudes, writings, photography / filming, utterances, coercive and controlling behaviour and physical assault (or worse) towards women and girls;

    - I want to give a positive shout out - in vote of thanks - to the (majority) of other men and boys with whom you engage on a daily basis in the community / workplace and elsewhere - who diligently, decently, thoughtfully and respectfully behave around women and girls as they would wish others to do so in respect of the people in their own lives - as though everyone were an honourary member of their extended family / neighbourhood / local community / team colleagues etc.

    Sadly, I think that I would add that the ugly-subset behaviour is also often harshly and relentlessly directed towards both vulnerable people (of any gender permutation or age group) and those people from under-represented communities too - rather than being an impact confined to women and girls.

    I was in an English city centre one Saturday mid-morning (in recent weeks); when I observed some particularly unnerving ugly-subset mass behaviour by a large assembled group near some city centre bus stops (a group of males, who appeared to be aged circa 16 to 24, unrelated to each other - judging by the banter style) - the horrible behaviour was being directed by them towards any women / girl (basically any female circa aged 10  years and over) who had the misfortune to walk up the hill on the pavement beside those bus stops.

    I saw and heard the youngest adolescent males, either acting solo, or in pairs / trios while still stood within the solidarity of the wider group; effectively acting as "game spotters" ...and then they would call out across to one of the mid-20's men to eagerly ask: "What do we think about that?".  The look on the adolescent faces was like a gun dog desperate to be given permission to go and retrieve some wildfowl, now winged, prey. 

    It was clear the younger adolescents were taking their lead directly from the older guys about which female to start harassing - as much as anything for sport / entertainment / boredom / inadequacy ... merely while they all awaited arrival of their respective buses.

    It was one of the sickest thing I have witnessed for quite a while.

    As I reached the top of the hill of the bus stop pavement; I heard the conversation of a young tourist Family as they came around the corner and paused slightly (as each parent then took hold of one of the hands of each child as a precaution before intending to walk the downhill pavement of the bus stop traffic movements). 

    I noticed (with real disquiet for their wellbeing) that their eldest child was a circa 11 year girl, plus her young Mother was wearing a headscarf in a Syrian fashionable manner. 

    I really felt I ought to alert them to what was occurring further down among those bus stops.  

    I completely stopped walking and silently looked as clearly as possible at the Father - who, thankfully, then also stood still for a moment to have a proper glance down the pavement. 

    The Father discreetly nodded to me (that he took my cue) and then he swiftly escorted his charges across the road junction and they wended their happy way, unimpeded, downhill ...via the relative safety of the opposite pavement. 

    I was so relieved.

    Families, (or anyone), out in the Spring sunshine of a city centre Saturday morning, near the main shopping precinct, should be able to go about their own business of life - without experiencing all that I did as I walked up past those bus stops.

    What was my point of difference which attracted the unwarranted attention?  The ugly-subset simply couldn't cope with the fact that I wore a sun hat on a sunny morning!  That was sufficient for them to launch their well-rehearsed campaign sequence.

    I don't mind admitting; I was thankful for having opted that day for donning my rucksack, (rather than having chosen to carry a handbag), as a couple of times along that bus stop pavement: I was pleased to have both hands free.

    I definitely felt there was realistic potential that I might need to resort to being ...educational / correctional - before I reached the apex of that hill. 

    It didn't come to that (which was good all around, as I know from experience; that my Father had prepared me well for what he euphemistically termed: "essential life skills" - or as my Grandfather used to refer to in polite company as: "etiquette" - and no, he didn't mean anything to do with Debrett's!).

    I am no timid "shrinking violet", all my numerous, rambunctious,  Cousins are male, I have lived and travelled in some spicy / dicey / unpredictable international environments, my workplace colleagues have usually been (my preference - because they often speak more directly) mostly men and sometimes within tough sectors / circumstances too.

    Yet, in a public place, in broad daylight, surrounded by other members of the public - that ugly-subset were emboldened, displaying and acting out upon some kind of pack behaviour which I am unaccustomed to expecting to navigate.

    They do need taking in hand, correctly, at National level - somehow - because in my direct experience they frankly ooze "feral".

    Almost akin to a frightened / insecure canine (which, in my lived experience; are the most potentially, spontaneously, dangerous type).

  • A tricky topic. I would think a lot of it stems from society/culture, if you look at history, women have been generally speaking second class citizens, not having the same rights as men. This is the case in a lot of societies and reinforced by many religions. I think some men don't like being challenged or threatened by women. I think its got to be a combination of things that need to come together. Education, seeing more women take positions of power/influence, maybe doing traditional men jobs/roles, need to really tackle the crimes around women in particular far more seriously, better male role models rather than some of these clowns on reality TV shows/Social media. 

  • Social habitus. Boys are groomed from a young age to believe in gender essentialism: That boys and men are a certain way, that girls and women are a certain way, that this is inherent and can't be changed, that this means they can only be a certain way. Most become rigidly attached to these things, I would say from a fear of not appearing 'man enough' the kind of abuse that come from that, and the benefits that masculinity grants them. Many boys are taught to see girls as being practically another species, as fundamentally different from them. It's easy to see how this grows into a lack of empathy from there, especially with systemic misogyny being taught to them. I would say that the main way to change this is to constantly challenge gender essentialism, teach them to be kind and compassionate, emphasise that these are human traits, not feminine ones. They can't avoid the grooming from the outside world, but any way we can reach out to those in our lives, and have a positive impact, even if it is only in challenging their views, is important. Other than that, it's important for their to be more visible positive male role models, but that's on men to do.