Trigger warning: Girl gets arrested, seemingly for being Autistic in a built up area.

Firstly: As the (annoying) commentry indicates we don't know all the facts here.

Secondly: It's a "zero hedge" article featuring PJW, so will be utter anathema to some people.

Thirdly: It's morbidly interesting, and somewhat thought provoking.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/arrested-saying-lesbian

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  • Do you know what we should do. We should have a march. They have been autistic pride march’s before. But we should have one in Leeds specifically about this. A celebration of autistic insensitivity and plain speaking. If we timed it right it might even coincide with the discrimination hearing assuming this case actually comes to court.

    I know there’s a broad range of different views but I think there is at least some consensus here but what happened was unacceptable and that culture in the police and society at large needs to change regarding dealing with autistic people who say things that make others uncomfortable. Maybe we don’t have consensus on what that change should be but I think we all agree on most of us agreed that change is needed.

    would people here be interested in organising an autistic pride march in Leeds to protest this sort of thing?

  • I don't find "pride" to be a very useful attitude myself, anymore than I've found my own Autism engenders respect in other people. 

    I also think this video shows a much wider, more serious societal problem than Autism. Even if the girl had been a lippy, nasty, piece of work under the influence of drink, did our police handle her right?

    IF we were going to march down the street complaining about the actual problem, (the inexorable transition from UK policing from the "dixon of dock green" model, to the IDF inspired methods used routinely to handle the public today, and showcased in that video) in unity with the NT majority, I'd be prepared to participate.

    But that's just me, probably focussing on my own beefs and missing the point, tbf.

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  • I don't find "pride" to be a very useful attitude myself, anymore than I've found my own Autism engenders respect in other people. 

    I also think this video shows a much wider, more serious societal problem than Autism. Even if the girl had been a lippy, nasty, piece of work under the influence of drink, did our police handle her right?

    IF we were going to march down the street complaining about the actual problem, (the inexorable transition from UK policing from the "dixon of dock green" model, to the IDF inspired methods used routinely to handle the public today, and showcased in that video) in unity with the NT majority, I'd be prepared to participate.

    But that's just me, probably focussing on my own beefs and missing the point, tbf.

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  • In this context the term protest seems more appropriate than pride. However if we call it autistic pride it’s that much harder for the police to deny us the right to close the roads and March.

  • maybe pride isn’t the best terminolog

    We could have a Seculsion of autists - that feels about right ;)

  • If I may say so it’s been my observation that when campaigning groups and political pressure groups start getting too wide and making it about everything it starts becoming about nothing.

    The issues get lost in the noise. People get overloaded and confused by the number of different issues the movement is ‘about.’ This would be about one thing, autistic people’s rights not to be persecuted, criminalised or excluded for giving incidental or unintentional offence.

    maybe pride isn’t the best terminology for that but it’s a quick and easy handle for people to get their heads around and it’s already being used for similar sorts of parades.