Is it normal that as an adult that I still know right from wrong, even when I am psychotic? It's just my brain is much more developed, I did not know right from wrong when I was delusional at the 15, and even as an adult, I sometimes am delusional.
Is it normal that as an adult that I still know right from wrong, even when I am psychotic? It's just my brain is much more developed, I did not know right from wrong when I was delusional at the 15, and even as an adult, I sometimes am delusional.
I sometimes wrongly get called delusional, due to my intelligence
This is why I asked. Delusional is a phrase NTypicals might use in accusation. Either to shift blame or due to panicking or as a way to dismiss, dominate and shut down a thing for whatever reason (boredom, even).
But more importantly Bipolar is becoming a dated term. Many women who were misdiagnosed with Melancholia or Bipolar were/are actually autistic.
We can take in far more of our surroundings / information mentally than our non-autistic peers. It can slow us down as it's a lot to sift though and it can cloud judgement creating the perspectives which might create and intense impact emotionally. Many of us encounter the same traumatic events without the 'guide to life' book to do things in a way that creates good boundaries and helps us remove our selves from toxic or cruel situations. Life can feel incredibly unjust, because it IS. It's more than a feeling, it has a genuine hard impact and more impact fully experience by the Autist. We are wired such that we can't filter things out like NTypicals and that creates a genuine overload and stress. We might go from perfectly fine to a rage from a day of being forced or trapped by a million small unjust things and then one last thing and boom.
I started a dive into psychology, philosophy and such in my teens determined to get to the bottom of things. Obviously, nothing is simple. But the world IS chaotic, the economic systems cruel, the politics shrouded in an alien form of communication. Our goal as Erich Fromm and Deleuze both expressed in one way or another is to Stop the madness from becoming Mental Illness.
I experimented briefly with stronger psychedelic compounds when I was younger. I found that unlike my NT companions no matter how disabled I was by the drug, there remained a core of me (possibly an "alter") that seemed to remain rooted in reality, and for want of a better word, "looked after me", during the psychedelic journey.
Being "neurotypical" seems to include having no ability to function "out side of your lane", and those of us who do display such abilities seem to be either exalted, or feared.
As for "knowing the difference between right and wrong" as other posters will point out, there are not many people who get up in the morning, knowing that they play for the side of evil.
In pretty much all of the bad people I've met, and when I've been evil myself, there has been a substantial element of willing self deception at play. Often accompanied by discarding words and terms that most accurately describe the behaviour one wants to engage in, and "rebranding" or redefining the behaviour by misusing other words and employing "double standards" and "sophistry".
I've found that good people can descend into evil practices quite easily.
Soldiers are a classic in your face example of this. Both armies in the current conflict, (mostly) believe they are "fighting the good fight" Many, Many, civilians I meet are strongly "pro" one side or another, whilst ignoring the reality that at least ONE side is doing great evil by cheerfully engaging in combat with the other. The fact that there is any argument at all as to who is right, suggests that a good fifty percent of so called "Normal" people are in fact deluded as regards who is good and who is bad in the Ukraine situation.
Very few of us can even entertain the idea that BOTH sides have become pretty indistinguishable in their blood lust and that the tiny minority of us who see both sides as having descended into great evil seem to be universally seen as "missing the point" by the combative majority.
Nevertheless, one fact alone stands out from all the confusion and delusion we all encounter. Outside of speculative theories, it can be observed that there is only ever really one truth about a given situation and many lies. (or misunderstandings which is when a lie is mistaken for the truth due to lack of discernment on behalf of the "misunderstander")
Truth applies to all situations, lies generally have much more limited scope of influence. Therefore when someone's description of a situation keeps changing in it's details, you can tell they are likely to be practicing dishonesty or promoting a delusion because those of us who can manage bursts of "living in the truth", never have to "remember the details", as we are "describing" rather than "inventing" reality.
I came up with a logical conundrum once, I can't prove it, I can't disprove it:
There is explanation to everything happening. This ‘’reality’’ is nothing but an illusion, creation of a desperate mind of a child, who never woke up from coma, after suffering a serious head injury at the age of 5.
Is it delusional in your eyes?
the thing is its the delusional part that could contradict knowing right from wrong, or how one acts on other peoples wrongs.
does a delusional person know right from wrong? or are they delusional and assume they know right from wrong when they could have very different ideas of it? or they could have the same ideas of right and wrong, but yet their delusions could give them the wrong and different idea of how to deal with people who they see as doing wrong?
Why did you ask me that? I sometimes do suffer from psychosis, and that is explained by Bipolar Disorder. Although, I sometimes wrongly get called delusional, due to my intelligence based on my special interests.
I have Bipolar Disorder, that can explain it.
These are very concrete words: Psychotic, Delusional, Judging right form wrong. I think in order to help, it would be good if you want to elaborate.
Have you been diagnosed with Schizophrenia or have you simply been called delusional by peers in an argument? I ask because blame shifting or name calling or gaslighting, any way of trying to shut down or nullify another can be a default mode non-autistics play when they experience shame or the possibility of being 'found out'.
If this isn't in relation with others, there are varying stages of psychosis, which involve the ability to judge what is real from what is something we might imagine while dreaming. Like seeing a shadow move that might not be there.
When dreaming, I still know the difference between right and wrong. Often these aren't needed, though as It can be like going to an art gallery where being present in the moment isn't a judgement call but an aesthetic experience.
Almost all humans know the difference. Most believe what they are doing is right, even if it's planting a bomb. This ability to slip into a mode of entitlement or justification is part of self-preservation. Most baddies believe they are on the Right side of justice for whatever reason. Checking in with our our own humanity and weaknesses, opting for gradate can help with humility, which is the rebalancing mechanism between Right and Wrong. These can be skewed by what we believe to be real or true.
