Newly diagnosed ADHD and ASD

Carlos said:

the will to keep seeking info and potential help or guidance and have hit an all time low, all the help really suggests is to join various communities and join with others

I agree that this is the "broadcast" advice we receive, these days.

I also think/find  it is nonsense and cr ap advice.

Forgive me, the following commentary runs L O N G......;

This broadcast advice that you mention is automated, pointless and terrible advice....because it perpetuates a mindless belief that the NHS, or NAS, or "published support groups"....might magically become available (and also be suitable for you) to enable you any type of meaningful change in your current situation.  This bleakly honest statement is just my opinion.

I do appreciate that it is the "accepted norm" these days to accept 'well-meaning' and 'psuedo-professional' positive advice, without challenge, even if it is trite and inapplicable in most instances........but I am an autistic person / autist .....so I trust you will forgive me for not mindlessly conforming to that "norm."

I have never seen anyone here say....."yes, great.......I am bettered now....because I found "a" support group or "a" NHS website or "a" NAS link that has made anything better".....and yet we are encouraged/bullied by consensus and newly developed social norms to mindlessly support such inapplicable platitudes.

From everything that I have understood from my own process, there simply is no generic support nor advice out there for genuinely autistic adults.  I personally think, that perhaps, that is the definition of being autistic.

One thing that isn't ever said, that should be said is.......

"THERE WILL BE MANY FALSE HORIZONS during one's personal acceptance of where one finds itself!"

It's like genuine grief, in that sense.....MANY false horizons!

HOWEVER.....rest easy pilgrim....all is not lost!

Although it has taken me a lifetime to find a few people who "get-me"......and a couple of years of being here to find a couple of people who "get me"....WELL BROTHER.....that ain't bad?!  You HAVE to put the work in.  You HAVE to suffer the suffering.  You HAVE to accept your reality.  You HAVE to accept the diagnosis on face value.....read what it says....and appreciate what it means!  Please don't expect everything to be fabulous BECAUSE you know you are autisitc (and btw - this isn't directed at you Carlos.......this has become a rant under my own steam, at this point!)

So here are some positives, that I have gleamed from my "diagnosis."

1) I found this place.  Within it, I found a few people who "get me"......but by no means instantly!!!!!  Both they and I, needed to put the work in, build mutual trust, against ALL odds (given the mutual characters involved).....AKA.....it is only through slow, slow observation, comfort and gradual realisation of mutual resonance....that a bond may form.  It takes time.  It cannot be hurried......but when it finally "lands".....it is W O N D E R F U L.  

2) You can spot your own.  You can now carefully 'de-throne' to see if you can spot your own - presumably autistic folk.  When it is safe to "act like yourself".....then you now have an excuse/reason/obligation to "be" how you feel.  Being able to connect with people like yourself, is very comforting.....you feel less alone with your thoughts.  Most of us are extremely "normal" in almost all respects.....whether that be without any physical control.....or being able to master the "sophisticated" social realm.  It matters not, if you are autistic (in my opinion)

3) Know thy self.  Peace can only come, when you choose to make peace with yourself.  This is irrespective of diagnosis, or otherwise.  It is defo the hardest thing to do.......1st know what you are, then 2nd accept what you are.  It is a two stage process - all from within - both stages are tricky - and then you have to work out who to frigging LIVE?!?!  I mean, WTAF?!!

RIP ISperg (NAS Forum-wise) and RIP Plastic (more literally)            [This line will only make sense to longstanding NAS members!]

I don't wish to melt away (nor degrade) by any similar process....but I wanted to write these things to you Carlos.  I hope they are of worth to you at this time?

Kind regards

Number.

Carlos said:

the will to keep seeking info and potential help or guidance and have hit an all time low, all the help really suggests is to join various communities and join with others

I agree that this is the "broadcast" advice we receive, these days.

I also think/find  it is nonsense and cr ap advice.

Forgive me, the following commentary runs L O N G......;

This broadcast advice that you mention is automated, pointless and terrible advice....because it perpetuates a mindless belief that the NHS, or NAS, or "published support groups"....might magically become available (and also be suitable for you) to enable you any type of meaningful change in your current situation.  This bleakly honest statement is just my opinion.

I do appreciate that it is the "accepted norm" these days to accept 'well-meaning' and 'psuedo-professional' positive advice, without challenge, even if it is trite and inapplicable in most instances........but I am an autistic person / autist .....so I trust you will forgive me for not mindlessly conforming to that "norm."

I have never seen anyone here say....."yes, great.......I am bettered now....because I found "a" support group or "a" NHS website or "a" NAS link that has made anything better".....and yet we are encouraged/bullied by consensus and newly developed social norms to mindlessly support such inapplicable platitudes.

From everything that I have understood from my own process, there simply is no generic support nor advice out there for genuinely autistic adults.  I personally think, that perhaps, that is the definition of being autistic.

One thing that isn't ever said, that should be said is.......

"THERE WILL BE MANY FALSE HORIZONS during one's personal acceptance of where one finds itself!"

It's like genuine grief, in that sense.....MANY false horizons!

HOWEVER.....rest easy pilgrim....all is not lost!

Although it has taken me a lifetime to find a few people who "get-me"......and a couple of years of being here to find a couple of people who "get me"....WELL BROTHER.....that ain't bad?!  You HAVE to put the work in.  You HAVE to suffer the suffering.  You HAVE to accept your reality.  You HAVE to accept the diagnosis on face value.....read what it says....and appreciate what it means!  Please don't expect everything to be fabulous BECAUSE you know you are autisitc (and btw - this isn't directed at you Carlos.......this has become a rant under my own steam, at this point!)

So here are some positives, that I have gleamed from my "diagnosis."

1) I found this place.  Within it, I found a few people who "get me"......but by no means instantly!!!!!  Both they and I, needed to put the work in, build mutual trust, against ALL odds (given the mutual characters involved).....AKA.....it is only through slow, slow observation, comfort and gradual realisation of mutual resonance....that a bond may form.  It takes time.  It cannot be hurried......but when it finally "lands".....it is W O N D E R F U L.  

2) You can spot your own.  You can now carefully 'de-throne' to see if you can spot your own - presumably autistic folk.  When it is safe to "act like yourself".....then you now have an excuse/reason/obligation to "be" how you feel.  Being able to connect with people like yourself, is very comforting.....you feel less alone with your thoughts.  Most of us are extremely "normal" in almost all respects.....whether that be without any physical control.....or being able to master the "sophisticated" social realm.  It matters not, if you are autistic (in my opinion)

3) Know thy self.  Peace can only come, when you choose to make peace with yourself.  This is irrespective of diagnosis, or otherwise.  It is defo the hardest thing to do.......1st know what you are, then 2nd accept what you are.  It is a two stage process - all from within - both stages are tricky - and then you have to work out who to frigging LIVE?!?!  I mean, WTAF?!!

RIP ISperg (NAS Forum-wise) and RIP Plastic (more literally)            [This line will only make sense to longstanding NAS members!]

I don't wish to melt away (nor degrade) by any similar process....but I wanted to write these things to you Carlos.  I hope they are of worth to you at this time?

Kind regards

Number.