advice needed

Hi I have just registered today, and already have found this forum helpful and reassuring that there are other people going through the same thing. My son is 13 (soon to be 14), he struggles at school, so much so that he has refused to go back this term. He broke down on the day he was due to go. He suffers with facial twitching which gets worse everytime you mention school. His last parents evening was a bit upsetting as all the teachers said he asks unnecessary questions, acts stupid and is always putting his hand up asking the same thing over and over again. So the teachers thought that he was being disruptive to the class and just handed out detentions left right and centre.

 

Anyway to cut a long story short, he is suffering big time, we are just waiting for dates for appointments etc. The school are crap and are not helping enough or quick enough. We want some work sent home so he can do it and not get too behind.

 

Can I please ask for any advice and how long it was before people got confirmed diagnoses. Sorry I have rambled on, but we are all finding this very hard and very upsetting as I am sure you all feel the same, that you just want to help them but you feel useless.

 

from a desperate mum

 

  • I've just looked up attendance codes:

    NEW ATTENDANCE CODES, DESCRIPTIONS AND MEANINGS

    CODE

    DESCRIPTION

    MEANING

    /

    Present (AM)

    Present

    \

    Present (PM)

    Present

    B

    Educated off site (NOT Dual registration)

    Approved Education Activity

    C

    Other Authorised Circumstances (not covered by another appropriate code/description)

    Authorised absence

    D

    Dual registration (i.e. pupil attending other establishment)

    Approved Education Activity

    E

    Excluded (no alternative provision made)

    Authorised absence

    F

    Extended family holiday (agreed)

    Authorised absence

    G

    Family holiday (NOT agreed or days in excess of agreement)

    Unauthorised absence

    H

    Family holiday (agreed)

    Authorised absence

    I

    Illness (NOT medical or dental etc. appointments)

    Authorised absence

    J

    Interview

    Approved Education Activity

    L

    Late (before registers closed)

    Present

    M

    Medical/Dental appointments

    Authorised absence

    N

    No reason yet provided for absence

    Unauthorised absence

    O

    Unauthorised absence (not covered by any other code/description)

    Unauthorised absence

    P

    Approved sporting activity

    Approved Education Activity

    R

    Religious observance

    Authorised absence

    S

    Study leave

    Authorised absence

    T

    Traveller absence

    Authorised absence

    U

    Late (after registers closed)

    Unauthorised absence

    V

    Educational visit or trip

    Approved Education Activity

    W

    Work experience

    Approved Education Activity

    X

    Non-compulsory school age absence

    Not counted in possible attendances

    Y

    Enforced closure

    Not counted in possible attendances

    Z

    Pupil not yet on roll

    Not counted in possible attendances

    #

    School closed to pupils

    Not counted in possible attendances

    Part of guidance for code C:

    REGISTRATION CODE: C

    Brief Description

    Other authorised circumstances (not covered by another appropriate code/description)

    Statistical Meaning

    Authorised Absence

    Legal Meaning

    Absent

    Physical Meaning

    Out for whole session

    DCSF Definition

    Special occasions at the discretion of the school

    Additional useful information:

    (These examples are illustrative and not meant to be exhaustive)

    Only exceptional occasions warrant leave of absence. Schools should consider each request individually taking the following into account:

    • the nature of the event for which leave is sought;

    • its frequency (is it a one-off, or likely to become a regular occurrence?);

    • whether the parent gave advance notice; and

    • the pupil’s overall attendance pattern.

    Examples might include special occasions such as attending the wedding of a family member, family bereavement, prison visits.

    REGISTRATION CODE: I

    Brief Description

    Illness (NOT medical or dental etc. appointments)

    Statistical Meaning

    Authorised Absence

    Legal Meaning

    Absent

    Physical Meaning

    Out for whole session

    DCSF Definition

    Missing registration through illness is an authorised absence. If a pupil is present for registration but returns home because of illness, no absence need be recorded for that session. Schools should keep a record of pupils leaving or returning to site in case of an emergency.

    If the authenticity of illness is in doubt, schools can record the absence as unauthorised absence (Code O) but should advise parents of the school’s intention. Schools can request parents to provide medical evidence to support absence on the grounds of illness.

    A pupil receiving medical treatment on site should be marked 'present'.

    Relevant Regulation

    6(2)

    Additional useful information:

    This code is to be used when parents phone to say that their child is ill. Parents should always be advised to notify the school as soon as possible when a child is ill. It could also be used when parents send a letter after the period of illness to explain the child’s absence.

    Absence at registration due to a medical, dental or hospital appointment should be recorded using Code M.

    While schools can request medical evidence to support absence on the grounds of illness, schools are advised not to request medical certificates unnecessarily (particularly retrospective certificates), especially if the illness was not treated by a doctor at the time. Unnecessary requests will block GP’s appointments which, in turn, could delay treatment of others and doctors report that it is difficult to provide retrospective evidence, particularly if they did not treat the pupil. Medical evidence can take the form of sight of prescriptions, appointments cards, etc. rather than Doctors’ Notes.

    REGISTRATION CODE: M

    Brief Description

    Medical/Dental appointments

    Statistical Meaning

    Authorised Absence

    Legal Meaning

    Absent

    Physical Meaning

    Out for whole session

    DCSF Definition

    Missing registration for a medical or dental appointment is authorised absence.

    Parents and pupils should be encouraged to make appointments out of school hours. Sight of an appointment card is advisable if a pupil is an irregular attender.

    If a pupil is present for registration but has a medical appointment later, no absence need be recorded for that session. Schools should keep a record of pupils leaving or returning to site in case of an emergency.

    A pupil receiving medical treatment on site should be marked 'present'.

    Additional useful information:

    For Health and Safety reasons a system must be in place to record that a pupil has either arrived at school or left the premises during the session.

    Medical appointments include:

    • Attendance at a GP’s surgery;

    • Attendance at a dentist’s surgery; and

    • Hospital appointments (not a stay in hospital, for which Code I should be used).

    I cannot see why they cannot use one of the above codes, I would challenge them in writing about it.  Technically you could be liable for prosecution based on unauthorised absence so them using the wrong code is serious.

  • Thanks for taking the time out to reply. My sons doctor did refer him to CAMHS and I was spoken to over the phone by the Access and Assessment Team. This was because of the way the letter was worded by his dr. The dr had put in their ?behaviour problems ?autism ?depression.  Basically they said to me that is sounds very much that your son has got aspergers, and it needs to go to a paediatrician.

    Well we know this already!!!!!! We have an appointment in 2 weeks with a neurologist and this is because of his facial twitching. 

    It seems to me that CAMHS are a waste of time, as like you say they prolong the assessment and come back with a load of bull. I have been advised that it has gone past the point of camhs and that we need to wait till our appointment and go from there.

    In the meantime the school are still putting him down as unauthorised abscences even though they know everything. All they are worried are their stupid figures.

    Until I came on here, I never realised what a battle this was going to be.

     

  • All areas have different waiting lists, but invariably CAMHS (presumably that is who will be assessing him?) take many months and often much longer than the 3 months they are supposed to take between referral and assessment.

    You ought to tell the school he has special needs, he is just pending diagnosis and in the meantime, you do not expect him to get detentions, and in fact you won't allow it.  (That's what I'd do anyway).  You have legal responsibility for your son and if you refuse to allow the detention I'm pretty sure they cannot enforce it.  Tell them they are treating your son discriminatorily.

    Regarding CAMHS, hassle, hassle, hassle.  Find out who is the manager or lead clinician and make direct contact.  According to NHS NICE Guidelines they are supposed to have a named contact for parents throughout the process.  The assessment itself should take no more than 3 hours providing there are not reasons to extend it, such as uncertainty.  Don't get fobbed off with one of those "has autistic traits but not enough for a diagnosis" either, that seems to be flavour of the moment for CAMHS which is a cop-out.  It's like saying someone is a little bit pregnant.  It's a neurological difference, and it's a spectrum.  Your son is having problems at school so he has severe enough traits to warrant a diagnosis, if autism is what he has (which it sounds like some traits from what you have said).