Hoarding

What to hoard?

The more time I spend on the net or watching the news, the more I panic about the future.

Should I hoard toilet paper?  This was the big issue in March 2020, this turned out to be a waste of time.

Should I hoard tinned and dried food ?  In case the supermarkets run out of food.

Should I hoard candles? In case the lights go out.

All suggestions are welcome.

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  • Since winter is coming up, and Gary Clails "Everyone needs Food, Clothes and Shelter" is a good starting point, you need suffcient food to withstand supply chain disruptions, (3 weeks, alledgely) and a plan to obtain more before that runs out. You should have enough clothes already, but shelter includes heating, & fresh water (AND as far as I am concerned) electricity. Accordingly I have multiple ways of generatng electricity, depending on available fuel. NO electricity = no gas fired central heating or freezer, so you will need about 300watts minimum power generation capacity at 240V. For those of you with generators, here's how you run your entire house* off a tiny generator during a power outage. *no kettle, shower or electric heating of any kind. No 500W patio security lamp. No power tools, no dope growing.. Just the essentials.

    FIRST and most importantly you turn the big main incoming isolator OFF. IF you can't do that you shouldn't be trying this.

    SECONDLY, you make an extension lead that runs from your generator to the nearest ringmain socket and put a plug on both ends, making the most dangerous extention lead known to man. ON one plug you inscribe it thus DO NOT UNPLUG and plug that into your house socket. the second plug goes into to your generator. Connect at house first, disconnect at generator first.

    • This is MASSIVELY dangerous if anyone disconnects the house plug when the generator is running, I cannot stress that enough, and expect fireworks if that isolation switch isn't thrown and they get the power back on.

    But on the last three times we had power cuts, my suitcase generator ran the fridge, the TV set, some lights and the central heating... This winter if my neighbours provide fuel, I can supply both houses next to me, to at least give them the basics. (2A @240V) which puts three sets of motivated eyes on the generator.

    Your main survival resource unfortunately is other people. I expect my fairly decent survival and technical skills to be highly tradeable and in the event of serious civil disruption have already made arrangements to form an alliance with the local minor criminal set, with a site picked out with good "fields of fire" and a defensible perimiter. 

    Self defence unfortunately, will become a major priority for anyone who seems to be "getting by too easily" which is why I've formed the alliance that I have..  In this country we are very limited as to the weaponry we can own, but not in the knowledge and skills one can acquire, so I've declined to hoard weapons, choosing instead to acquire the skills to quickly improvise a variety of projectile and explosive based weapons, a well as an effective design of spear, which gives me a short dash to self protection if the rule of law breaks down, and full compliance with the very sensible laws we currently live under, if it does not break down. Tooling yourself beforehand (attractive an idea as it may seem at first glance) is just weirdo and "cheating" sort of behaviour, quite unbecoming of a decent british citizen. If you do not consider these issues though, you may as well not bother "prepping" at all.

    One ideal would be to have a wood fired gravity heating system plumbed in parallel to your regular nat gas heater. Bonus if it's based on a rayburn type cooker/heater. 

    All this is quite bleak sounding, but you can only help others if you are all sorted out yourself.

    Only take in people who will work with you and can demonstrate and will provide useable skills for the benefit of your growing "tribe". One reason I want thieves in my group..        

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  • Since winter is coming up, and Gary Clails "Everyone needs Food, Clothes and Shelter" is a good starting point, you need suffcient food to withstand supply chain disruptions, (3 weeks, alledgely) and a plan to obtain more before that runs out. You should have enough clothes already, but shelter includes heating, & fresh water (AND as far as I am concerned) electricity. Accordingly I have multiple ways of generatng electricity, depending on available fuel. NO electricity = no gas fired central heating or freezer, so you will need about 300watts minimum power generation capacity at 240V. For those of you with generators, here's how you run your entire house* off a tiny generator during a power outage. *no kettle, shower or electric heating of any kind. No 500W patio security lamp. No power tools, no dope growing.. Just the essentials.

    FIRST and most importantly you turn the big main incoming isolator OFF. IF you can't do that you shouldn't be trying this.

    SECONDLY, you make an extension lead that runs from your generator to the nearest ringmain socket and put a plug on both ends, making the most dangerous extention lead known to man. ON one plug you inscribe it thus DO NOT UNPLUG and plug that into your house socket. the second plug goes into to your generator. Connect at house first, disconnect at generator first.

    • This is MASSIVELY dangerous if anyone disconnects the house plug when the generator is running, I cannot stress that enough, and expect fireworks if that isolation switch isn't thrown and they get the power back on.

    But on the last three times we had power cuts, my suitcase generator ran the fridge, the TV set, some lights and the central heating... This winter if my neighbours provide fuel, I can supply both houses next to me, to at least give them the basics. (2A @240V) which puts three sets of motivated eyes on the generator.

    Your main survival resource unfortunately is other people. I expect my fairly decent survival and technical skills to be highly tradeable and in the event of serious civil disruption have already made arrangements to form an alliance with the local minor criminal set, with a site picked out with good "fields of fire" and a defensible perimiter. 

    Self defence unfortunately, will become a major priority for anyone who seems to be "getting by too easily" which is why I've formed the alliance that I have..  In this country we are very limited as to the weaponry we can own, but not in the knowledge and skills one can acquire, so I've declined to hoard weapons, choosing instead to acquire the skills to quickly improvise a variety of projectile and explosive based weapons, a well as an effective design of spear, which gives me a short dash to self protection if the rule of law breaks down, and full compliance with the very sensible laws we currently live under, if it does not break down. Tooling yourself beforehand (attractive an idea as it may seem at first glance) is just weirdo and "cheating" sort of behaviour, quite unbecoming of a decent british citizen. If you do not consider these issues though, you may as well not bother "prepping" at all.

    One ideal would be to have a wood fired gravity heating system plumbed in parallel to your regular nat gas heater. Bonus if it's based on a rayburn type cooker/heater. 

    All this is quite bleak sounding, but you can only help others if you are all sorted out yourself.

    Only take in people who will work with you and can demonstrate and will provide useable skills for the benefit of your growing "tribe". One reason I want thieves in my group..        

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