New Statutory body as an alternative to the NHS for mental health and hidden disability

Now that advances in medical science has uncovered more people in modern times, children, adolescents and adults alike, including in the post-Covid era, with mental health and hidden disabilities including autism, is it not now time to set up a separate statutory body, properly funded and properly managed, entirely seperate from the NHS, dealing exclusively with all mental health and hidden disability issues? We all know the problems of the NHS that have been going on for decades and are well-documented, of mismanagement and wastage, so is it not time for a fresh start with a new body, alongside implementing reforms within the NHS?

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  • And one more thing to add before I bail out to walk my dogs.

    The centres should fundamentally be tasked not just to help the person that comes there negotiate the problems they encounter.  They should address the systemic problems they encounter that cause them....

  • One thing that would stop issues ia if ALL staff in All Buisnessea had to understand all disablitys but Bo they go on a crap awareness course where a man in ansuit twoks them what aswers to give Eto pass a one page test

  • This is the very reason why urgent amendments to the Autism Act 2009 must be made, with far greater enforcement powers (in a similar way to the health and safety laws) and with massively increased provision for police investigations and criminal prosecutions of senior management who are found not implementing the provisions correctly - only when we as autistic people have ever more draconian laws to protect our rights will we ever get anywhere - there is no point in having laws unless they are properly enforced and there also needs to be greater monitoring and supervision of senior management specially provided for in any amendments to the Autism Act 2009 

  • Great ideas in principle but I'm not sure how they'd work in practice. I think greater corporate responsibility is a good idea and bosses should be help to account more often for corporate failure.

    One of my concerns is how do you legislate bad behaviour away? Like it or not there will be a stubborn core of people who refuse to engage with any diversity legislation, how do you make being an ar$ehole illegal? We are already seeing the backlash of already fairly mild legislation and practices in politics and the wider world, I'm not saying that we shouldn't stand our ground, we absolutely should, but I also think we need to avoid making life more adversarial than it already is. Hubs that dont' judge are a good start, being believed should always be the starting point. 

    Another concern is who is excluded from these hubs? Would or should their be a police pressence for those who's problems extend into the legal realm, such as sexual abuse, rape and domestic violence. Having worked with people and in organisations who deal with this sort of thing, the answer would be a resounding no, it's not just about lack of trust in policing or the legal system, but not feeling ready for that path or just not wanting too, especially with children who often want the "monster" to go away but not the other side of the abusive parent. We'd need to revisit child protection law again to not fall foul of the mandatory reporting and is that somewhere we really want to go revisit? 

    Would these hubs have the capacity to help people who recognise their own behaviour is abusive or problematic and want to stop? How would they manage a domestic abuser walking  in when their victim is also there?

    What about those who's physical health intersects with their mental health? I can have all the counselling in the world, but it's not going to find me an allergy specialist when theres a national shortage, or someone who can deal with the amount of pain I'm in from both fibromyalgia and osteoarthritis. I do have a drug problem, I'm allergic to most of them and people don't want to accept this, not taking opiates maybe good from an addiction perspective but not from a pain perspective. It's very hard not to sometimes get depressed, frustrated and angry about it all and what really dosen't help is when people ask if I'm depressed like it's some big revelation, as a friend told her doctor when asked this in relation to her Chronns disease, she said 'Of course I'm effing depressed, how can I not be when getting a sandwch has to be planned like a military operation?'

    Sorry if this seems negative, but you did ask me to question it and I'm trying to play devils advocate and trouble shoot.

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  • Great ideas in principle but I'm not sure how they'd work in practice. I think greater corporate responsibility is a good idea and bosses should be help to account more often for corporate failure.

    One of my concerns is how do you legislate bad behaviour away? Like it or not there will be a stubborn core of people who refuse to engage with any diversity legislation, how do you make being an ar$ehole illegal? We are already seeing the backlash of already fairly mild legislation and practices in politics and the wider world, I'm not saying that we shouldn't stand our ground, we absolutely should, but I also think we need to avoid making life more adversarial than it already is. Hubs that dont' judge are a good start, being believed should always be the starting point. 

    Another concern is who is excluded from these hubs? Would or should their be a police pressence for those who's problems extend into the legal realm, such as sexual abuse, rape and domestic violence. Having worked with people and in organisations who deal with this sort of thing, the answer would be a resounding no, it's not just about lack of trust in policing or the legal system, but not feeling ready for that path or just not wanting too, especially with children who often want the "monster" to go away but not the other side of the abusive parent. We'd need to revisit child protection law again to not fall foul of the mandatory reporting and is that somewhere we really want to go revisit? 

    Would these hubs have the capacity to help people who recognise their own behaviour is abusive or problematic and want to stop? How would they manage a domestic abuser walking  in when their victim is also there?

    What about those who's physical health intersects with their mental health? I can have all the counselling in the world, but it's not going to find me an allergy specialist when theres a national shortage, or someone who can deal with the amount of pain I'm in from both fibromyalgia and osteoarthritis. I do have a drug problem, I'm allergic to most of them and people don't want to accept this, not taking opiates maybe good from an addiction perspective but not from a pain perspective. It's very hard not to sometimes get depressed, frustrated and angry about it all and what really dosen't help is when people ask if I'm depressed like it's some big revelation, as a friend told her doctor when asked this in relation to her Chronns disease, she said 'Of course I'm effing depressed, how can I not be when getting a sandwch has to be planned like a military operation?'

    Sorry if this seems negative, but you did ask me to question it and I'm trying to play devils advocate and trouble shoot.

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