New Statutory body as an alternative to the NHS for mental health and hidden disability

And one more thing to add before I bail out to walk my dogs.

The centres should fundamentally be tasked not just to help the person that comes there negotiate the problems they encounter.  They should address the systemic problems they encounter that cause them....

One thing that would stop issues ia if ALL staff in All Buisnessea had to understand all disablitys but Bo they go on a crap awareness course where a man in ansuit twoks them what aswers to give Eto pass a one page test

This is the very reason why urgent amendments to the Autism Act 2009 must be made, with far greater enforcement powers (in a similar way to the health and safety laws) and with massively increased provision for police investigations and criminal prosecutions of senior management who are found not implementing the provisions correctly - only when we as autistic people have ever more draconian laws to protect our rights will we ever get anywhere - there is no point in having laws unless they are properly enforced and there also needs to be greater monitoring and supervision of senior management specially provided for in any amendments to the Autism Act 2009 

It must be full police investigation and criminal charges, nothing less - it’s also why since Covid, I have zero faith whatsoever in democracy and the democratic process regardless of political parties on either side, which along with parliament and the courts, has been nothing more than a charade of deception that gives the false illusion of us having a real say in anything, indeed democracy is itself corrupt by definition and is open and susceptible to all manner of infiltration, hijacking, corruption from within, compromise and even weaponisation against those that democracy is supposed to protect and serve, where our enemies will be enabled to use our own rights and freedoms against us in a selective manner where it suits their own purposes - at least with a military only government in power, we know where we stand - despite the bad rap throughout history and around the world regarding the actions of military “dictators” what is never focused on is the immense good that they did for their people when in power and after they were ousted from power, the regimes they controlled fell into disarray, until a new strong leader emerged and took control - we can still learn lessons from these regimes in order to avoid falling into the same pitfalls that they did, because it’s very clear that the current system is not working 

What about autistic people being such a clique albeit demonstrating that there is another way?

I'm personally working all the time it seems to resolve my fears of "falling foul" of someone or another - and I'm gradually learning to overcome that fear.  I think that it is called "learned helplessness".

Please excuse my response to that which is made to TheCatWoman Alexa but - ME TOO an awful lot of the time - why it is so hard for me to bring the "bigger picture", "longer wavelength" view together I've looked to do in this thread.  As I have looked to explain: partly I ascribe this to the developmental "hard wiring" of my neurotypical brain and also the learnt psychological perspective of it being harder to accept that there can be a better way rather than just having to put up with it because of all the problems one might envisage or experience in trying to resolve it.  I personally come with a lifetime of baggage in that respect and I strongly suspect a lot of other autistic people do too.

I have made several posts in that respect in this thread TheCatWoman  I respectfully refer you to those.

So then, your suggestion is Alexa ?

I’ve encountered this kind of “witches coven” woke leftist mindset too in supermarket retailing and only recently, one retail outlet was really strongly and blatantly pushing woke leftist agenda and ideologies in all of its stores, which since Covid, I came to realise was socially destructive precisely because it and globalist ideology is socially destructive - I emailed the CEO of that company saying that as a potential customer, I was really put off by such blatant messaging outside of its stores and since then, it has been taken down 

TheCatWoman said:

I try not to be combatitive with it, but what to me is genuine interest can seem to others like I'm deliberately trying to spoil something.

That's exactly the situation I always find myself in, for the same reason. 

"The Clique", seems to be an ever present human organisational unit and woe betide you if you fall foul of it, as I have done so many, many times in so many areas, from anti-racism, to working in whole food shops. There are always a few who get into a huddle and try and tell others how to live.

Ok, I'll stop now. My overtrained brain is always asking questions of questions and challenging assumptions, I'm the sort of person who naturally see's links across a big picture and many subjects. I try not to be combatitive with it, but what to me is genuine interest can seem to others like I'm deliberately trying to spoil something. I guess it comes from hanging out with engineers who's first question is always, 'hows that going to work?' and academic historian training which teaches you to look at document or a theory and ask questions of it, who was it written for? etc.

What do you see it looking like?

Fair point Alexa I have proposed these organisations do not work without external audit elsewhere in the thread.

Applying this to them seems appropriate.

Phased said:

3. Funding & Legal "Clout" Without Starving Public Services

None of this works without teeth, but we must be smart about accountability. Fining schools, NHS trusts, or local councils is counterproductive—it strips away scarce resources from classrooms and frontline services, ultimately punishing the very people we are trying to protect. Instead, the financial and structural accountability must flip.

• Personal Accountability for Senior Management: Just like corporate directors face personal liability under Health and Safety laws, senior executives across all public and private bodies (Headteachers, Academy Trust CEOs, NHS Trust Directors, Council Chief Executives, and Corporate Managers) must face personal statutory penalties and professional disqualification if they willfully ignore accessibility laws or enforce policies causing systemic psychological harm.

Phased said:

I'd suggest that all those operational details would be completely up to the local staff, lived experience panels, and structure of the local hubs to sort out right there in place.  No rigid central planning that provides policy and procedure for every eventuality

Ah, the downside with leaving it to local staff to decide the rules is that legal safeguards for anti-discrimination and even health & safety get tossed aside if they seem unimportant to the dominant personalities in the hub. It's the reason for major hospital failures that hit the headlines. If the rules are lax and left to local interpretatiuon without regular external checking, some individuals will dominate and run the place to suit themselves.

It must be full police investigation and criminal charges, nothing less - it’s also why since Covid, I have zero faith whatsoever in democracy and the democratic process regardless of political parties on either side, which along with parliament and the courts, has been nothing more than a charade of deception that gives the false illusion of us having a real say in anything, indeed democracy is itself corrupt by definition and is open and susceptible to all manner of infiltration, hijacking, corruption from within, compromise and even weaponisation against those that democracy is supposed to protect and serve, where our enemies will be enabled to use our own rights and freedoms against us in a selective manner where it suits their own purposes - at least with a military only government in power, we know where we stand - despite the bad rap throughout history and around the world regarding the actions of military “dictators” what is never focused on is the immense good that they did for their people when in power and after they were ousted from power, the regimes they controlled fell into disarray, until a new strong leader emerged and took control - we can still learn lessons from these regimes in order to avoid falling into the same pitfalls that they did, because it’s very clear that the current system is not working 

What about autistic people being such a clique albeit demonstrating that there is another way?

I'm personally working all the time it seems to resolve my fears of "falling foul" of someone or another - and I'm gradually learning to overcome that fear.  I think that it is called "learned helplessness".

Please excuse my response to that which is made to TheCatWoman Alexa but - ME TOO an awful lot of the time - why it is so hard for me to bring the "bigger picture", "longer wavelength" view together I've looked to do in this thread.  As I have looked to explain: partly I ascribe this to the developmental "hard wiring" of my neurotypical brain and also the learnt psychological perspective of it being harder to accept that there can be a better way rather than just having to put up with it because of all the problems one might envisage or experience in trying to resolve it.  I personally come with a lifetime of baggage in that respect and I strongly suspect a lot of other autistic people do too.

I have made several posts in that respect in this thread TheCatWoman  I respectfully refer you to those.

So then, your suggestion is Alexa ?

I’ve encountered this kind of “witches coven” woke leftist mindset too in supermarket retailing and only recently, one retail outlet was really strongly and blatantly pushing woke leftist agenda and ideologies in all of its stores, which since Covid, I came to realise was socially destructive precisely because it and globalist ideology is socially destructive - I emailed the CEO of that company saying that as a potential customer, I was really put off by such blatant messaging outside of its stores and since then, it has been taken down 

TheCatWoman said:

I try not to be combatitive with it, but what to me is genuine interest can seem to others like I'm deliberately trying to spoil something.

That's exactly the situation I always find myself in, for the same reason. 

"The Clique", seems to be an ever present human organisational unit and woe betide you if you fall foul of it, as I have done so many, many times in so many areas, from anti-racism, to working in whole food shops. There are always a few who get into a huddle and try and tell others how to live.

Ok, I'll stop now. My overtrained brain is always asking questions of questions and challenging assumptions, I'm the sort of person who naturally see's links across a big picture and many subjects. I try not to be combatitive with it, but what to me is genuine interest can seem to others like I'm deliberately trying to spoil something. I guess it comes from hanging out with engineers who's first question is always, 'hows that going to work?' and academic historian training which teaches you to look at document or a theory and ask questions of it, who was it written for? etc.

What do you see it looking like?

Fair point Alexa I have proposed these organisations do not work without external audit elsewhere in the thread.

Applying this to them seems appropriate.

Phased said:

3. Funding & Legal "Clout" Without Starving Public Services

None of this works without teeth, but we must be smart about accountability. Fining schools, NHS trusts, or local councils is counterproductive—it strips away scarce resources from classrooms and frontline services, ultimately punishing the very people we are trying to protect. Instead, the financial and structural accountability must flip.

• Personal Accountability for Senior Management: Just like corporate directors face personal liability under Health and Safety laws, senior executives across all public and private bodies (Headteachers, Academy Trust CEOs, NHS Trust Directors, Council Chief Executives, and Corporate Managers) must face personal statutory penalties and professional disqualification if they willfully ignore accessibility laws or enforce policies causing systemic psychological harm.

Phased said:

I'd suggest that all those operational details would be completely up to the local staff, lived experience panels, and structure of the local hubs to sort out right there in place.  No rigid central planning that provides policy and procedure for every eventuality

Ah, the downside with leaving it to local staff to decide the rules is that legal safeguards for anti-discrimination and even health & safety get tossed aside if they seem unimportant to the dominant personalities in the hub. It's the reason for major hospital failures that hit the headlines. If the rules are lax and left to local interpretatiuon without regular external checking, some individuals will dominate and run the place to suit themselves.