Cold water immersion

I've heard that things like cold showers, cold water swimming etc are really good for ones health, especially if one has something like fybromyalgia or other inflamitory conditions and for mental health too.

Has anyone tried it, does it work or did it just make you so cold you couldn't get warm again?

Parents
  • There is a thing I read about in my neurodivergent DBT (Dialectic Behaviour Therapy) workbook about the mammalian dive reflex and it is meant to be calming.  I think you need to be careful how you do it though and I've not tried it.

  • Sorry Joe, I don't understand your post, what DBT and the mammalian dive reflex, all I do when I get in water is sink!

  • lol no worries!  Someone recommended this book to me called 'The neurodivergent friendly workbook of DBT skills' it's a type of therapy and the workbook looks at mindfulness, emotional regulation and distress tolerance.

    The dive reflex is about how mammals slow down their breathing and heart rate in cold water, so it's should help calm you down.  Supposedly you can trigger the reflex with a bowl of cold water or ice packs around your face.  However, if you have blood pressure, heart problems or anything like that, you should ask a doctor before trying stuff.

  • I hope you find somewhere that can offer you therapy that is suitable and right for your circumstances.

  • I think the problem with NHS and mental health at the moment is that it not suiting us is only one of the problems. The whole system is not working at the moment. When I previously had CBT about 5 years ago, the therapist told me that they had targets to reach a certain number of people under their umbrella but were not able to employ the required number of therapists to see that number of people. I think to the government we are just numbers and as long as they can see this many people are being seen, they're not that bothered after that.

    And that is just one section of NHS that there are issues with which is also just one aspect of life there are currently issues with. There are so many systems that just need a complete overhaul and a lot more funding. All governments just seem to lack the money and the know how to actually make a difference.

    I've no idea what the NAS does when it comes to mental health I'll be honest.

    I am getting closer and closer to going private for therapy but it is such a commitment money wise even if I can get it at reduced cost and there still wouldn't be a guarantee it would be helpful.

  • I assume the NAS lobbies the government to some extent? I think we are way down the list of priorities. We have at least one other autism charity in N. Ireland who is very vocal in campaigning for effective services here, but our government assembly is appallingly ineffective in all areas and it has overspent. 

  • Yes this is what I'm currently finding. I've wasted a lot of time jumping through the hoops of NHS therapy. They just go through the motions instead of actually looking at what a person's needs are. They've wasted time and money providing me with therapy which was never going to be suitable. If they sign posted/had available the therapy that was actually going to be a good fit for that individual not only would they save money but the wait times would also go down as they wouldn't be putting every person through every stage unnecessarily.

  • That’s exactly the problem. After my private diagnosis last year, the assessor gave me some literature which included a book list. However, they recommended one book, “Spectrum Women” as being particularly suitable for me as a person who knew little about what other autistic women feel and experience. It isn’t a therapy book but it was exactly what I needed at that time.

    The NHS isn’t interested in investing in quality services for autistic people. If people had appropriate support to help them live their lives to the full, the NHS would save money in the long term. 

  • This is why I was intrigued. I often find these things come highly recommended by therapists and the likes but in reality they can't be put into practice by most or only small parts of them are actually useful.

Reply Children
  • I hope you find somewhere that can offer you therapy that is suitable and right for your circumstances.

  • I think the problem with NHS and mental health at the moment is that it not suiting us is only one of the problems. The whole system is not working at the moment. When I previously had CBT about 5 years ago, the therapist told me that they had targets to reach a certain number of people under their umbrella but were not able to employ the required number of therapists to see that number of people. I think to the government we are just numbers and as long as they can see this many people are being seen, they're not that bothered after that.

    And that is just one section of NHS that there are issues with which is also just one aspect of life there are currently issues with. There are so many systems that just need a complete overhaul and a lot more funding. All governments just seem to lack the money and the know how to actually make a difference.

    I've no idea what the NAS does when it comes to mental health I'll be honest.

    I am getting closer and closer to going private for therapy but it is such a commitment money wise even if I can get it at reduced cost and there still wouldn't be a guarantee it would be helpful.

  • I assume the NAS lobbies the government to some extent? I think we are way down the list of priorities. We have at least one other autism charity in N. Ireland who is very vocal in campaigning for effective services here, but our government assembly is appallingly ineffective in all areas and it has overspent. 

  • Yes this is what I'm currently finding. I've wasted a lot of time jumping through the hoops of NHS therapy. They just go through the motions instead of actually looking at what a person's needs are. They've wasted time and money providing me with therapy which was never going to be suitable. If they sign posted/had available the therapy that was actually going to be a good fit for that individual not only would they save money but the wait times would also go down as they wouldn't be putting every person through every stage unnecessarily.

  • That’s exactly the problem. After my private diagnosis last year, the assessor gave me some literature which included a book list. However, they recommended one book, “Spectrum Women” as being particularly suitable for me as a person who knew little about what other autistic women feel and experience. It isn’t a therapy book but it was exactly what I needed at that time.

    The NHS isn’t interested in investing in quality services for autistic people. If people had appropriate support to help them live their lives to the full, the NHS would save money in the long term.