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Covid vaccines for adults with Autism - opinions

IrishInManchesterUK

I’ve been reading a lot of stuff about the Covid vaccines and I’m wondering what people’s opinions are on this, especially on Covid vaccine mandates and/or if people with autism feel more under pressure to take the vaccines? - living in the U.K. 20 years and having extended family in my native Republic of Ireland, I got some of the vaccines on the NHS in order to comply with the Irish HSE rules, especially as I pass through Holyhead in Wales, when I do travel home on SailRail or “coach and sail” via Dublin - I’m not sure about the boosters (3rd and other shots) but if I’m interacting with the NHS to receive Autism support, will this be a basic requirement or mandate to access such support? I know that in some parts of Ireland where the Gardai (Irish police) rigidly enforce the HSE mandates, while one can still use the NHS vaccine passport app, the Gardai will check to see that it’s up to date 

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  • I am proud to say that I have refused all of them.

    It *should* be that informed consent is required for any kind of medical treatment, and people should be free to make their own judgements on that basis. My own opinion is that that certainly was not the case for covid. Being able to travel to other countries is not a valid reason to receive experimental medical intervention, especially for something about which relatively little is/was known, and has consequently turned out to be harmless for most people. The fact that the kind of coercion that you mention existed, and the fact that the rules were different from country to country immediately raises alarm bells as far as I'm concerned. Any such coercion should be regarded as criminal behaviour in any civilised country, but the UK in particular seems to have long since given up any ambition as being suitable for such a description. The Nuremburg trials following World War II were supposed to stop this kind of thing from ever happening again.

    I mean no offence to anyone. We should be free to make up our own minds. This is only my opinion and something that I feel extremely strongly about!

  • in reply to frenz

    The vaccine was not, and is not experimental. The ‘base’ was developed years ago, and the addition for the strain of virus was worked on for many months by many specialists in collaboration.

    It is personal choice to take up the vaccine, and each individual should make that decision after fully informing themselves. There are still far to many people citing it is a tracker, a poison, or mind altering microchip etc!

  • in reply to Catlover

    But just because there are some ridiculous conspiracy theories out there does not mean the mRNA vaccine is not problematic. For one thing, the spike protein is not benign. Unfortunately they picked that part of the virus to replicate, apparently there were two options, the other of which would have been benign, so it is a shame nobody went for that one! In particular, the spike protein can exacerbate inflammation, which is a reason for me to be reluctant to have it, I would prefer a vaccine with a different mechanism, dead virus, or at least just spike protein which is not made by my own body!

    Secondly, they thought the mRNA would not stay in the body for long, and would stay in the muscle. Neither of these things have proved to be the case. Firstly, it travels through the lymph to the spleen so the body does get systemically exposed. Secondly, there has been a paper from Denmark showing that in close to 10% of cases mRNA from the vaccine was still present 28 days after vaccination.

    I have had A-Z and would have it again, I would prefer novavax, but all I am being offered is mRNA so I am currently not very protected, and not happy about that! What happened to freedom of choice? If anyone knows how I can get novavax I would like to know. My low executive function and stress levels about my cat at the moment are not allowing me to look into it.

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  • in reply to Catlover

    But just because there are some ridiculous conspiracy theories out there does not mean the mRNA vaccine is not problematic. For one thing, the spike protein is not benign. Unfortunately they picked that part of the virus to replicate, apparently there were two options, the other of which would have been benign, so it is a shame nobody went for that one! In particular, the spike protein can exacerbate inflammation, which is a reason for me to be reluctant to have it, I would prefer a vaccine with a different mechanism, dead virus, or at least just spike protein which is not made by my own body!

    Secondly, they thought the mRNA would not stay in the body for long, and would stay in the muscle. Neither of these things have proved to be the case. Firstly, it travels through the lymph to the spleen so the body does get systemically exposed. Secondly, there has been a paper from Denmark showing that in close to 10% of cases mRNA from the vaccine was still present 28 days after vaccination.

    I have had A-Z and would have it again, I would prefer novavax, but all I am being offered is mRNA so I am currently not very protected, and not happy about that! What happened to freedom of choice? If anyone knows how I can get novavax I would like to know. My low executive function and stress levels about my cat at the moment are not allowing me to look into it.

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