Covid vaccines for adults with Autism - opinions

I’ve been reading a lot of stuff about the Covid vaccines and I’m wondering what people’s opinions are on this, especially on Covid vaccine mandates and/or if people with autism feel more under pressure to take the vaccines? - living in the U.K. 20 years and having extended family in my native Republic of Ireland, I got some of the vaccines on the NHS in order to comply with the Irish HSE rules, especially as I pass through Holyhead in Wales, when I do travel home on SailRail or “coach and sail” via Dublin - I’m not sure about the boosters (3rd and other shots) but if I’m interacting with the NHS to receive Autism support, will this be a basic requirement or mandate to access such support? I know that in some parts of Ireland where the Gardai (Irish police) rigidly enforce the HSE mandates, while one can still use the NHS vaccine passport app, the Gardai will check to see that it’s up to date 

  • The amount of misinformation out there on both the infection and the vaccine has been really getting on my nerves, to be honest. Feeling like you don't need the boosters is a sensible reason for not getting them, but some of the things you hear are really quite irrational (like the microchip stuff) and it really bothers me.

  • But just because there are some ridiculous conspiracy theories out there does not mean the mRNA vaccine is not problematic. For one thing, the spike protein is not benign. Unfortunately they picked that part of the virus to replicate, apparently there were two options, the other of which would have been benign, so it is a shame nobody went for that one! In particular, the spike protein can exacerbate inflammation, which is a reason for me to be reluctant to have it, I would prefer a vaccine with a different mechanism, dead virus, or at least just spike protein which is not made by my own body!

    Secondly, they thought the mRNA would not stay in the body for long, and would stay in the muscle. Neither of these things have proved to be the case. Firstly, it travels through the lymph to the spleen so the body does get systemically exposed. Secondly, there has been a paper from Denmark showing that in close to 10% of cases mRNA from the vaccine was still present 28 days after vaccination.

    I have had A-Z and would have it again, I would prefer novavax, but all I am being offered is mRNA so I am currently not very protected, and not happy about that! What happened to freedom of choice? If anyone knows how I can get novavax I would like to know. My low executive function and stress levels about my cat at the moment are not allowing me to look into it.

  • i got my third vaccine just so i could get out of work one day lol
    not sure ill bother with anymore, dont realise any difference either way but i think its probably best to be ballanced on it, not have too many, but not have too little... perhaps my third was over the line of too many... but yeah that was more because i wanted to get out of work lol

  • The vaccine was not, and is not experimental. The ‘base’ was developed years ago, and the addition for the strain of virus was worked on for many months by many specialists in collaboration.

    It is personal choice to take up the vaccine, and each individual should make that decision after fully informing themselves. There are still far to many people citing it is a tracker, a poison, or mind altering microchip etc!

  • I agree with your points on this, as frankly, speaking as an Irish patriot living just over 20 years in the U.K., I find the situation back home in (communist) Ireland heartbreaking 

  • I am proud to say that I have refused all of them.

    It *should* be that informed consent is required for any kind of medical treatment, and people should be free to make their own judgements on that basis. My own opinion is that that certainly was not the case for covid. Being able to travel to other countries is not a valid reason to receive experimental medical intervention, especially for something about which relatively little is/was known, and has consequently turned out to be harmless for most people. The fact that the kind of coercion that you mention existed, and the fact that the rules were different from country to country immediately raises alarm bells as far as I'm concerned. Any such coercion should be regarded as criminal behaviour in any civilised country, but the UK in particular seems to have long since given up any ambition as being suitable for such a description. The Nuremburg trials following World War II were supposed to stop this kind of thing from ever happening again.

    I mean no offence to anyone. We should be free to make up our own minds. This is only my opinion and something that I feel extremely strongly about!

  • Do they give a choice of vaccine? I refuse mRNA but had A-Z and would like novavax but my GP only has mRNA and executive functioning makes it too hard to try and get novavax so I just try and stay away from going inside anywhere. Can't always manage that though as have had to go to the vet, but they let me go in the back way to reduce risk. I would be horrified to be arrested as I have been staying well away from people so I am the one at risk, not others. I don't understand the demand for 100% vax as it does not prevent spread.

  • Sounds draconian and concerning. I’m glad we avoided that level of crazy here. I’m in favour of the vaccine but when you’re arresting people for refusing it things have clearly gone too far.

  • It’s definitely a different story in many HSE hospitals in Ireland as they have a requirement for 4 vaccines as the Irish government wants a 100% vaxx rate and at one stage, they even had mobile Garda (police) vaxx teams going around rural areas to ensure the mandates were being enforced with any refusals being met with arrest under the amended Irish mental treatment act 

  • I had a lot of presure drove me mental in the end there just wouldn't accept no as an answer i was very much agents the mandate and was one of thoes people you would see the the tv i worked for NHS track and trace durring the pandemic testing people and i was threand and abused by the whole of society thats the way i view it anyways

  • I don't really feel under any pressure, probably because I was quite happy to get vaccinated. I didn't see it as any different from getting a flu jab really- just more important in those initial stages because it was such a new disease. I've always taken every vaccine I'm eligible for, because I have several physical disabilities and I feel that I'm already dealing with enough health issues as it is without adding infections to that. For me, the COVID vaccines have been an easy decision because the benefits outweighed the risks. If someone else feels their benefit vs risk is different then that's their decision to make. I don't like general anti-vaccine sentiment but if someone just feels they're healthy enough to handle a bout of flu (for example) then that's fine.

  • I work in an NHS hospital outpatient department we don’t check whether patients have had vaccines, we definitely aren’t refusing people face to face care if they’re not vaccinated. From now on I think only healthcare staff and the elderly will be eligible for boosters, maybe also the clinically vulnerable. It’s definitely not gone away and likely never will. You can’t be forced to have vaccines, they actually refused to give my daughter her 2nd dose because they weren’t sure she’d relax enough and there was a risk of the needle breaking