dissociation

Good morning everyone. I just wanted to ask if anyone has experienced a condition called dissociation ? It can be very distressing and it starts very unexpectedly. Any input would be great ! 

  • I don't know if this experience falls into the category - I think it does and I've had a few of them. Probably them most memorable one was when the GP had the conversation with me about an autism assessment. 

    I was receiving treatment for anxiety/depression at the time following a very long slow and deterioration in my mental health at work. We got on pretty well and he asked me to keep a mood diary for a week and bring it back to him. Which I did.;

    He read the diary (my memory is a bit fuzzy at this point), turned to me and said something along the lines that sometimes it's difficult as a GP to get a full picture of a patient through symptoms that are presented within a few minutes. He said that reading the diary he had a better insight into me - and referenced some of my writing. He asked if he knew what I meant - and said that the next step would be an assessment. When he used the term disability I think it's then I started reeling.

    The world moved into the background and it was like a light was being shone into my soul - and I recognised that he had an insight about me that I didn't have. Every awareness of what I thought  made me "me" disappeared and it was almost like I didn't know who I was anymore. I think I'd broached the subject of autism with him in other appointments so I'm not sure as to why I reacted the way I did. Part of it maybe, I think was his change of conversation style and tone after reading the diary, the other was it felt he was speaking directly into me - hard to explain. I'm so used to "surface level" conversation to get by, or discussions of my symptoms (read; feelings) as somehow separate from me that I'm not used to "direct" conversation - about who I am, thoughts, ideas - that kind of thing. I guess on some level I knew that something in me wasn't functioning the same as everyone else but I figured if I could do all the things everyone else did (study, get a job) then it didn't really matter. At that moment not only did I realise he'd seen something - he recognised that it was an issue - and that it did make me different that in that it needed some type of "intervention" (the assessment) beyond a self-help book or a boost of the meds. 

    In other surroundings the experience might have been different. But in a doctors surgery I think it just heightened everything. I wasn't panicked. But I felt disconnected, with a very increased awareness and sense of living in a world that was whirling around me and that I suddenly felt I was lacking any sense of autonomy or power to affect it. 

    It passed after a few hours. 

  • Dissociation is a normal defence mechanism

    which type of dissociation ? 

    dissociative amnesia.

    dissociative fugue

    derealisation

    depersonalisation

    identify confusion

    www.mind.org.uk/.../

  • I'm sorry I have never experienced that, I have only experienced it as part of a panic attack. But I know it's "a subconscious way of coping with and avoiding a traumatic situation or negative thoughts". Maybe it would be less distressing if you think of it as a way of your brain trying to protect you?

  • Yes, I dissociate. It's a PTSD response as far as I know, and is different to shutdowns. There's always a trigger though for me, either people flirting with me or touching me. The best description I've read of it was in The Body Keeps the Score. Dissociation is a texhnical word for one type of zoning out. Depending on which form of zoming out you're doing there'll be different ways of managing it.

  • Yes I have.

    A very strange and disconcerting state to be in. Everything was happening as usual, people were going about their business, traffic was moving as normal. It was like I was in The Invasion of The Body Snatchers (original) and I was the unwitting actor. I had a strong feeling in the centre of my chest that was not uncomfortable, just strange. I felt the panic inside but was able to control myself outwardly (good masker). I had somewhere to go but my feet were glued to the ground, I couldn't work out if this was because I was trying to take stock of the situation or that I was panicked. Possibly both. It took a while to collect myself and I reduced my intention to the minimal. I was going somewhere and with a tentative step forward nothing more unusual happened so I took another step forward, focusing on my intended destination and I eventually arrived. Once inside I was able to relax a little but it took more than a half hour to settle down to some 'normality' again.

    I've had less intense bouts that have lasted much longer.

  • It can happen at random times. It feels like a panic attack and it’s quite a strange experience. I usually bring it on myself or I expect it to happen. I don’t know if that makes sense. 

  • Do you mean during a panic attack, or does it happen by itself?