The British stiff upper lip

When I have looked at any questionnaires etc which are designed to give an indication of whether someone is on the spectrum, there are always questions about whether other people tell you that you are rude or insensitive and so on.

I don't find that people make these sort of comments as a rule. They are polite, but tend to walk away, or avoid you, and just let you know they don't much like you by actions rather than words.

I have been reading about asd and emotions and about the idea that we have an on/off switch rather than a dial, for our emotions. I certainly find this description fits me. If I am very upset, I cannot stop myself from crying, even in public places. My temper is volcanic and I just can't stop it in some situations. When happy, I often laugh until I cry and my sides hurt. I am just not very British.

When I have travelled abroad, I have seen men arguing loudly and happily in cafes. Here it seems to be taboo to be heated about anything, we are expected to be rational and calm. The bereaved in other countries cry openly, but if someone sheds more than a quiet, polite tear at a funeral here, they are deemed "out of control and undignified".

This leads me to the question:- Are British people with asd more at a disadvantage than our counterparts from cultures that are more expressive?

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  • Hi Longman, yet again, I find answers here to life long issues, that I have only half got to grips with.

    I often know when I am getting it wrong by the sudden silence of the person I am with, but they rarely actually tell me and usually, I don't realise what I have got wrong until much later, if ever. I am probably guilty of having the wrong facial expressions when people are speaking and I know that I tend to smile if I think they are talking twaddle. I cannot do that neutral face, mine gives me away, I think.

    My worst problem is that I forget other people have feelings, because I don't think that they feel things as much I do, so I tend to rant on too long about subjects that annoy/upset me and can upset an entire group of people in minutes. On the other hand, if I have not experienced something, I don't see it's potential to upset the other person and listen with a more accademic curiosity rather than empathy.

    Your list of things we get wrong has enlightened me, I know I do many of those.

    Re the personal space issue, I find too many nts come too close to me and I step back because it causes me great discomfort. This has brought on the comment "do I have bad breath or something?" I cannot get that close to people.

    The problem of expressing emotions, I find awful. If I am deeply upset about something (thankfully rare), it spills out in an uncontrolled manner. Otherwise, I keep things to myself. Neither is a good way of dealing with things.

    If I am with someone who is very upset, I get upset too. I cannot bear to see someone that unhappy. My brother died 20 years ago (we were not a close family), and his wife was of asian origin. She openly expressed her grief at the funeral and I was overwhelmed more by her pain than the loss of my brother.

    Hence, if someone has had an experience, such as the loss of a close relative, and can calmly chat to family and friends throughout the funeral, I assume that they just don't feel things as much as I do. I began to think like this quite early in life. Many people just seem to be less sensitive to emotional and physical pain than me.

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  • Hi Longman, yet again, I find answers here to life long issues, that I have only half got to grips with.

    I often know when I am getting it wrong by the sudden silence of the person I am with, but they rarely actually tell me and usually, I don't realise what I have got wrong until much later, if ever. I am probably guilty of having the wrong facial expressions when people are speaking and I know that I tend to smile if I think they are talking twaddle. I cannot do that neutral face, mine gives me away, I think.

    My worst problem is that I forget other people have feelings, because I don't think that they feel things as much I do, so I tend to rant on too long about subjects that annoy/upset me and can upset an entire group of people in minutes. On the other hand, if I have not experienced something, I don't see it's potential to upset the other person and listen with a more accademic curiosity rather than empathy.

    Your list of things we get wrong has enlightened me, I know I do many of those.

    Re the personal space issue, I find too many nts come too close to me and I step back because it causes me great discomfort. This has brought on the comment "do I have bad breath or something?" I cannot get that close to people.

    The problem of expressing emotions, I find awful. If I am deeply upset about something (thankfully rare), it spills out in an uncontrolled manner. Otherwise, I keep things to myself. Neither is a good way of dealing with things.

    If I am with someone who is very upset, I get upset too. I cannot bear to see someone that unhappy. My brother died 20 years ago (we were not a close family), and his wife was of asian origin. She openly expressed her grief at the funeral and I was overwhelmed more by her pain than the loss of my brother.

    Hence, if someone has had an experience, such as the loss of a close relative, and can calmly chat to family and friends throughout the funeral, I assume that they just don't feel things as much as I do. I began to think like this quite early in life. Many people just seem to be less sensitive to emotional and physical pain than me.

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