Is doing a good job about fitting in? Or doing it well?

longman said:

I thought it worth posing this questions as it underlies a lot of the problems faced by people on the spectrum in obtaining employment.

We currently live in a society where fitting in is more important than ability to do a good job. The work place is a social environbment. Many hours of productivity are lost by the amount of time frittered away by employees socialising on the job, when they should be getting down to it. Promotion often depends on joining Round Table or Freemasons, whether your partner is a good cook and has people round for candlelit suppers.

Work is a social thing. If you just go to do work then that's an unrewarding existence. Enough work has to get done but it isn't the only thing that happens in a workplace.

The BIG problem for this country atr the moment is the capacity of employees to waste time at work.

Personally I think that the big problem is that people are often doing pointless and unproductive things in a zombie like manner. The modern workplace is much more efficient than it used to be but it is often efficiently doing stupid things.

People on the spectrum have the unusual and valuable talent of being able to focus on a job and stay with it to completion. They don't need social displacement activity.

Disagree, we are not robots, we crave social interaction but we are often bad at it.

Yet often they cannot gain or hold down a job, primarily because they cannot do the social bit.

sometimes we do the wrong things, we irritate people because our social skills can be worse than poor i.e. actually destructive.

British employers should wake up to the value of hard working committed employees not being allowed to work just because they cannot socialise.

Yes, but we have to make allowances for our own traits. It isn't always the employer's fault when we fail an interview. I've done a fair number in my life and sometimes I have said the wrong thing and then been unable to think on my feet to get myself out of the hole I've just dug.

longman said:

I thought it worth posing this questions as it underlies a lot of the problems faced by people on the spectrum in obtaining employment.

We currently live in a society where fitting in is more important than ability to do a good job. The work place is a social environbment. Many hours of productivity are lost by the amount of time frittered away by employees socialising on the job, when they should be getting down to it. Promotion often depends on joining Round Table or Freemasons, whether your partner is a good cook and has people round for candlelit suppers.

Work is a social thing. If you just go to do work then that's an unrewarding existence. Enough work has to get done but it isn't the only thing that happens in a workplace.

The BIG problem for this country atr the moment is the capacity of employees to waste time at work.

Personally I think that the big problem is that people are often doing pointless and unproductive things in a zombie like manner. The modern workplace is much more efficient than it used to be but it is often efficiently doing stupid things.

People on the spectrum have the unusual and valuable talent of being able to focus on a job and stay with it to completion. They don't need social displacement activity.

Disagree, we are not robots, we crave social interaction but we are often bad at it.

Yet often they cannot gain or hold down a job, primarily because they cannot do the social bit.

sometimes we do the wrong things, we irritate people because our social skills can be worse than poor i.e. actually destructive.

British employers should wake up to the value of hard working committed employees not being allowed to work just because they cannot socialise.

Yes, but we have to make allowances for our own traits. It isn't always the employer's fault when we fail an interview. I've done a fair number in my life and sometimes I have said the wrong thing and then been unable to think on my feet to get myself out of the hole I've just dug.