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[Content warning: discussion of rape and sexual assault] –Russel Brand, GUILTY

TheCatWoman

Of rape and sexual assault, has been remanded in custody and will be sentenced on Monday, to what the judge called a significant prison sentence. The Met have said they have to further cases against him that are before the CPS.

I really hope this case shines a light on the men who think they're entitled by fame to abuse any woman they choose.I hope the person who's currently asking the courts to stop him being named as a sexual abuser, because he might "try and kill himself" if named, gets told, no and that freedom of the press matters and that the women he's alledged of assaulting can have their day in court after a full and thorough investigation.

This comes on top of TWO cases currently before the courts of men accused of drugging their wives, raping them, photographing and filming them and asking other men to come and do the same.

I think Madam Pelicot has opened the floodgates on the amount of depravity some men are capable of. Apparently its quite a common fantasy among men, to want to have sex with an unconious woman!

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  • TheCatWoman said:
    Apparently its quite a common fantasy among men, to want to have sex with an unconious woman!

    I was surprised to hear this so I did a little digging:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somnophilia

    A 2015 study with a sample of 1516 participants reported that 22.6% of men and 10.8% of women have fantasized about "sexually abusing a person who is drunk, asleep, or unconscious

    So it is not just a male thing - about half as many women as men have the same fantasy.

    I have had 2 long term partners who expressed a desire that I do such a thing with them but I always felt it was wrong - no clear consent means no to me and you cannot consent if you are not awake and lucid.

    I am glad that Russel has been finally locked up - this seems to have been a very long time coming.

  • in reply to Iain

    That's what a lot of people don't seem to get tbh. Men AND women are both capable of doing horrible things such as murder, rape and abuse, but the media seems content with portraying it as an exclusively male thing, which is very harmful, if you ask me

  • in reply to Jamesmac

    I don't think women can legaly rape men? I agree that some women are bad, but unfortunetly it is a much, much higher proportion of men that commit sexual and violent crime. I have also yet to hear of a female TV or radio celeb that has abused their position to abuse women and children. 

  • in reply to LateToTheAlphaQuadrant
    LateToTheAlphaQuadrant said:
    I don't think women can legaly rape men?

    That's incorrect. There is also domestic abuse by females. I suspect this is not often reported out of embarrassment.

  • in reply to Iain

    I fan day from. Experiance sadly that sometimes men don't report it because well we consent until we don't and the other guy just keeps going and we assume yes means yes evrn though we said no. 

    Basicly st least in my case I felt less of a victim because I instgated sex but told the guy to stop as I was no longer feeling it bit his reply(in both cases as it happened two times sadly)  was I just need to. Finish

    It was years later I figured out what had actually happened and it's was too late to do anything about it asni didn't have enough info on the men involved but luckily i moved past it and future sexual encounters with both genders went better. 

  • in reply to TheCatWoman
    TheCatWoman said:
    Another thing that many don't realise is how many men are raped by other men

    There remains a huge amount of shame around being the victim, having performed what is seen as a gay act and not being able to defend themselves - at least for many men.

    For this reason many will not report it for fear the will be thought less of by their partner and/or peers.

  • in reply to Iain

    Another thing that many don't realise is how many men are raped by other men and it's not always a gay thing either, but the same power dynamics as when men rape women

  • in reply to TheCatWoman
    TheCatWoman said:
    I've heard of one woman in the US who's alleged to have used their position to abuse, but thats all I know.

    The following link has statistics on the sort of thing you are referencing:

    https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics/statistics-depth/

    Please be aware that it contains some distressing information so do not click it if you are sensitive on this subject.

    Some key figures:

    - Nearly 1 in 5 women (18.3%) and 1 in 71 men (1.4%) in the United States have been raped at some time in their lives

    - 15% of female rapes are by a stranger

  • in reply to LateToTheAlphaQuadrant

    I can understand that a man might feel pressured into sex and even if able to function may feel extrememly uncomfortable about it and may feel distress and trauma in the same way that a female rape victim would. One of the problems I think is that many still have the idea of a rapist as being someone who jumps out and grabs someone, but thats by far the minority, the majority of rapists are known to the victim, who often feel quite safe and have a resonable expectation of being safe, right up until the attack. It could be your friends partner, or a family member, a work collegue.

    I've heard of one woman in the US who's alleged to have used their position to abuse, but thats all I know.

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  • in reply to LateToTheAlphaQuadrant

    I can understand that a man might feel pressured into sex and even if able to function may feel extrememly uncomfortable about it and may feel distress and trauma in the same way that a female rape victim would. One of the problems I think is that many still have the idea of a rapist as being someone who jumps out and grabs someone, but thats by far the minority, the majority of rapists are known to the victim, who often feel quite safe and have a resonable expectation of being safe, right up until the attack. It could be your friends partner, or a family member, a work collegue.

    I've heard of one woman in the US who's alleged to have used their position to abuse, but thats all I know.

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