Public executions WTF?

I totally get where you're coming from, I find it totally horrifying

I think that was someone with a bad sense of humour!

Roy said:

He is now  the patron saint of tanners.

lol WHAT

I visited Milan a few years back, there is a statue of the apostle St. Bartholomew. He was flayed or skinned alive for preaching Christianity, the statue shows all his muscles exposed. A painting nearby depicts him with his skin draped over one arm and a flaying knife in one hand.

The flaying didn’t kill him so he was then beheaded. 
He is now  the patron saint of tanners.

TheCatWoman said:

they're talking about bringing back the electric chair!

*gagging noises intensify*

Its a court martial so I guess the rules are different. After Christa Pike I think they're having a rethink about lethal injections, they're talking about bringing back the electric chair!

I think things like Iron Maidens have a lot of mythology surrounding them, there were plenty of horrible ways to torture and kill people, as I said King John, abandoned a few people who as a consquence starved to death, its one of the reasons why he still has such a bad reputation.

Yeah, sorry if I mentioned anything that you weren’t already aware of.

The good news about the oubliette is that - like the “iron maiden” - it may have been a mythologized method of execution that was never actually used. It’s possible oubliette are just poorly made toilets and that’s it. I didn’t research deep enough to confirm it’s real. However, I feel like the oubliette is symbolic of a whole genre of what I call “abandonment” executions, and there are other horrific examples of that. Even if oubliettes weren’t an actual punishment, we’ve got other ways to do basically the same thing.

It’s a shame America is considering not just capital punishment, but now public execution for the sake of patriotism. It’s sick

Oh yes, you might be right. That would be a horrible end to life, no matter how long that would last. Yikes, no thanks!

I agree, and I thought they used lethal injection in USA, not firing squad?!!

Most anti-US groups, such as Iran practice execution themselves, so at best they can say that America is no better than them. I think for much of the rest of the world, individuals, such as myself, it just makes us see the USA as even more of a degraded and rogue state.

Is there not enough violence online? 

My position is clear.

Violence is wrong. Killing people is wrong. Killing people who killed your people is wrong. There are better ways to resolve conflict and achieve justice, which don't perpetuate a culture of violence and trauma.

I feel that if it goes ahead and is live streamed then it will be used as recruitment material for anti US groups. It will just backfire against the US as you mention. That they even thought such a thing was a good idea is frightning.  

Of course its insane, but then Trump and sanity are strangers.

He's announced an energy ceasefire in Ukraine, only Zelinskyy says no ones told him.

Trump: thinks he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize

also Trump: starts wars and approves of public execution

The lack of self awareness on this guy is insane

I'm against capital punishment for many of the reasons you have stated. There is the odd human/crime you hear about where you think well perhaps everyone would be better off if the death penalty were a thing but it can't be used like that. It either would have to be the normal punishment for a catefort of crimes or not at all. Can't just hand pick a chosen few. And as you say, there are people wrongly accused of terrible crimes and it would be awful if they were put to death. I also thing that capital punishment punishes the person's family more than them. They only know what's happening for a period of time and then it's over. The family has to live with it forever and the family might be completely innocent. I have always struggled with the concept of killing someone for killing someone else. Is that justified? I don't think so. How are we any better than the killer if we advocate for people's lives to be taken?

Let's pretend for a minute that I do agree with capital punishment. I do not think that should ever be for public viewing. I know traditionally it always was but that baffles me. People literally used it for entertainment and that is sickening to me. I'm not sure how people can be against someone's crimes enough to think they should die and then enjoy watching it. I understand for victims there may be something healing of knowing the perpetrator is dead.

Live streaming it is a whole nother level. That isn't just people turning up because they chose to. That could end up everywhere. People can record it themselves and share it on. As you say young, vulnerable or those mentally unable to cope may end up seeing it. It could be hard to get away from if people keep sharing it. I think it is a disgusting suggestion and I really question the mentality of Pete Hesgeth. 

I don't feel I have a right to an opinion on the death penalty, because I've no experience of losing someone to a murderer. BUT it should never be made public - public executions are the realm of terrorist organisations and dictators. There is risk of the condemned being perceived a martyr, hero or role model by dissaffected individuals and groups. There are some who would enjoy watching executions - another reason for conducting this out of sight. Justice should be conducted with dignity and restraint - not made into something resembling an ancient Roman spectacle.

They may do, but that doesn't make it right for the state to broadcast an execution, I've never seen funky town and I don't think I want too.

Kids can see worse stuff than that in a heartbeat. Plenty of videos online of cartel executions which are way more messed up than somebody getting shot. If you’ve seen Funky Town you’ll know what i mean. I do personally think though that life without parole in solitary is a much better punishment.