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Public executions WTF?

TheCatWoman

If the title isnt'  a trigger warning in itself then the content maybe.

Pete Hesgeth, Trumps Secretary for War, has said today that a man who rampaged around a military base shooting and killing people will have his execution by firing squad live streamed! Public execution has been illegal under international law for decades, although today the Trump administration anounced that its putting sanctions on the International Court of Justice, after one of its former judges won a Nobel Peace Prize today.

I'm not in favour of capital punishment, I've heard all the arguments for it and I understand why some people agree with it, I don't and never have, I find it barbaric, cruel and demeaning and dehumanizing to all of us. I fear what would have happened to so many of those who have suffered miscarriges of justice, a postumous pardon dosen't bring anyone back.

I didn't think American [in]justice could sink any lower after the totally botched execution attempt Christa Pike, but I think live streaming an execution by firing squad is a whole new hell. What happens if someone young or vulnerable see's it? It could scar them for life, Hesgeth seems to think it's justice being seen to be done and that it will serve as a warning. I doubt if it will, but I think it could backfire on him and make more people oppose executions.

What do you think of public executions?

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  • I'm against capital punishment for many of the reasons you have stated. There is the odd human/crime you hear about where you think well perhaps everyone would be better off if the death penalty were a thing but it can't be used like that. It either would have to be the normal punishment for a catefort of crimes or not at all. Can't just hand pick a chosen few. And as you say, there are people wrongly accused of terrible crimes and it would be awful if they were put to death. I also thing that capital punishment punishes the person's family more than them. They only know what's happening for a period of time and then it's over. The family has to live with it forever and the family might be completely innocent. I have always struggled with the concept of killing someone for killing someone else. Is that justified? I don't think so. How are we any better than the killer if we advocate for people's lives to be taken?

    Let's pretend for a minute that I do agree with capital punishment. I do not think that should ever be for public viewing. I know traditionally it always was but that baffles me. People literally used it for entertainment and that is sickening to me. I'm not sure how people can be against someone's crimes enough to think they should die and then enjoy watching it. I understand for victims there may be something healing of knowing the perpetrator is dead.

    Live streaming it is a whole nother level. That isn't just people turning up because they chose to. That could end up everywhere. People can record it themselves and share it on. As you say young, vulnerable or those mentally unable to cope may end up seeing it. It could be hard to get away from if people keep sharing it. I think it is a disgusting suggestion and I really question the mentality of Pete Hesgeth. 

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  • I'm against capital punishment for many of the reasons you have stated. There is the odd human/crime you hear about where you think well perhaps everyone would be better off if the death penalty were a thing but it can't be used like that. It either would have to be the normal punishment for a catefort of crimes or not at all. Can't just hand pick a chosen few. And as you say, there are people wrongly accused of terrible crimes and it would be awful if they were put to death. I also thing that capital punishment punishes the person's family more than them. They only know what's happening for a period of time and then it's over. The family has to live with it forever and the family might be completely innocent. I have always struggled with the concept of killing someone for killing someone else. Is that justified? I don't think so. How are we any better than the killer if we advocate for people's lives to be taken?

    Let's pretend for a minute that I do agree with capital punishment. I do not think that should ever be for public viewing. I know traditionally it always was but that baffles me. People literally used it for entertainment and that is sickening to me. I'm not sure how people can be against someone's crimes enough to think they should die and then enjoy watching it. I understand for victims there may be something healing of knowing the perpetrator is dead.

    Live streaming it is a whole nother level. That isn't just people turning up because they chose to. That could end up everywhere. People can record it themselves and share it on. As you say young, vulnerable or those mentally unable to cope may end up seeing it. It could be hard to get away from if people keep sharing it. I think it is a disgusting suggestion and I really question the mentality of Pete Hesgeth. 

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