Communication difficulties and different autistic profiles

On the Random Thoughts thread I said that I often don't feel like I belong here and many of you were kind enough to tell me my contributions to discussion are valued, but I think one of the reasons I don't feel I belong is that autism manifests differently in me to how it does in most others.

Many people here seem to AUHD, whereas I'm a Liminal Austic Thinker, this means I like to inhabit the grey areas of life, rather than the black and white of Binary Thinkers, or the fact driven thought processes of Analytical Thinkers or the High Energy, rapid paced emotional short hand loving AUDH people.

This difference in cognitive style makes it hard for us all to communicate easily, it's why I don't get emojis and others love them and are quite happy to post long streams of them that mean loads to those of the same cognitive type, where as I just look at them and think Eh? Of course not being able to see them properly even with my glasses dosen't help either. I need a longer form of commuication, not short forms of text speak and emojis, especially when theres an emotional depth to what people are communicating, I don't understand memes either, probably because I don't inhabit the spaces that use them, but it's very difficult for those of us who aren't AUDH to always understand WTF people are on about.

I know I'm a deep thinker, who's uncomfortable with binary answers, choices and rules based thinking and black and white thinking in general, I guess some people read what I've posted and think 'WTF's she on about now, I can't be bothered to read all that, why can she just say it with a meme and a couple of emojis?' I see patterns in a lot of things, the story behind the story, where things that seem very different are expression of a similar thing and sometimes the same thing, it's very rare for me to think in a straight line, to me the world is like a jigsaw where I can see the whole picture and at the same time move pieces around, this happens in different dimensions and levels too, nothing is vertical or flat and without texture.

Having had training in both counselling and a history degree has really taught me to ask questions of questions, to look under the surface of whats presented to me and to say the unpleasant, the deviant, the socially unexceptable, to name the game being played and ask others if they see the game too and do they really want to play it? This is uncomfortble for many people, but once I've seen something like that I can't unsee it, I can't not say what I see, people of a more binary type of thinking or an analytical type might look and think something like ' the ladders falling down, all the bits are on the floor, must deny the collapse and put the ladder back together'.

I think basically what I'm trying to say is that AUDH is the dominant type here and that why I often feel that I don't fit in, we literally see the world differently, through different lenses. But is it just me that feels like this? Can we make a bit more effort to be accomodating of different types? I wonder if other people come here and are put off because they don't feel reflected in what they read here how responses are framed?

I think theres also a danger that AUDH is seen as the only type or even the most common type of autism and all services end up geared towards AUDH and those of us who express differently are excluded again, are doubly stigmatised by an NT world that dosen't understand and dosen't really want to and an ND world thats seems largely AUDH and is just relieved to have finally been recognised. Included in this exclusion is those of us who don't cope well with the digital world, the dominant narrative being that autistic people don't like talking to others so if we do everything digitally then thats ok. So whilst you lots are happily chatting away using memes and emojis, theres others of us sitting down with a piece of paper, a fountain pen and ink from a bottle, trying to set down our thoughts.

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  • From reading and occasionally participating in discussions here on the Community Forum, my eyes have been opened to just how many different types of neurodivergent experiences there are! But note the 'occasionally' in the previous sentence. I often end up muting someone's opening post, either because I can't relate to their experience, or I find it too upsetting to think about, or just don't have a meaningful response to give. I do try to offer helpful comments where and when I can, especially if I have experience of a shared problem.

    I don't know how prevalent ADHD is amongst the membership of this Forum, as to be honest I don't try to analyse people's conversation style too much. It does sound like something that a lot of folks get referred for either initially or after a diagnosis for ASD, but beyond that I've no clue. As a rule, I try my best to treat people here with respect and not take offence to how they may respond to me.

    Years ago, I went through an online version of the Myers-Briggs Personality Test and landed on being INFJ. At the time, it made total sense as I've always known I was introverted, and for a while I followed a lot of INFJ and MBTP-related groups and blogs. Eventually, though, I realised I was getting hung up on the label, and merely liking and sharing stuff online wasn't actually helping me. (I went through a similar journey with Atheism back in the 2000s, and in hindsight I think it was the same trap, of thinking that 'finding my tribe' was an end in itself. Oh, and of course I went through a cycle of being Very Online around the same time, which I've now weaned myself off of.)

    Perhaps because I've been a geek since the 1980s, thanks to home computers and later dial-up access to online services, I'm of a generation that understands and can use technology but haven't been immersed in it to the point of now knowing any other way? I've now scaled back my internet and device usage quite a bit, and only when or where it makes sense. I'm quite envious of those who are good with 'analogue' media, writing and drawing and such, as that's an ability that I've sadly lost of lot of. Hopefully one day I'll be able to do so again!

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  • From reading and occasionally participating in discussions here on the Community Forum, my eyes have been opened to just how many different types of neurodivergent experiences there are! But note the 'occasionally' in the previous sentence. I often end up muting someone's opening post, either because I can't relate to their experience, or I find it too upsetting to think about, or just don't have a meaningful response to give. I do try to offer helpful comments where and when I can, especially if I have experience of a shared problem.

    I don't know how prevalent ADHD is amongst the membership of this Forum, as to be honest I don't try to analyse people's conversation style too much. It does sound like something that a lot of folks get referred for either initially or after a diagnosis for ASD, but beyond that I've no clue. As a rule, I try my best to treat people here with respect and not take offence to how they may respond to me.

    Years ago, I went through an online version of the Myers-Briggs Personality Test and landed on being INFJ. At the time, it made total sense as I've always known I was introverted, and for a while I followed a lot of INFJ and MBTP-related groups and blogs. Eventually, though, I realised I was getting hung up on the label, and merely liking and sharing stuff online wasn't actually helping me. (I went through a similar journey with Atheism back in the 2000s, and in hindsight I think it was the same trap, of thinking that 'finding my tribe' was an end in itself. Oh, and of course I went through a cycle of being Very Online around the same time, which I've now weaned myself off of.)

    Perhaps because I've been a geek since the 1980s, thanks to home computers and later dial-up access to online services, I'm of a generation that understands and can use technology but haven't been immersed in it to the point of now knowing any other way? I've now scaled back my internet and device usage quite a bit, and only when or where it makes sense. I'm quite envious of those who are good with 'analogue' media, writing and drawing and such, as that's an ability that I've sadly lost of lot of. Hopefully one day I'll be able to do so again!

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