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PIP Application Denied -big old rant

andi

Hi

ive just had my pip application declined after having it for 6 years. I have had it denied before and appealed it then but I live alone now and have some achievements since then. and they seem to have just focused on those achievements not how long it took for me to get them and the impact of trying to get them. They seem to have brushed over every struggle I gave and pin it to my 3 achievements as to why I can’t be allowed pip. On my report it says “I have changed your descriptors perviously chosen based on medical evidence” sorry I don’t call an ambulance everytime I have a meltdown? sorry every time Im in a panic I’m not calling the police? I used to be on medication. I stopped taking it because I was having fainting spells unsure what was causing them and blacked out once leading to me cutting my jaw open needing stitches and now left significant scarring. But because I “function” (who cares about at what expense) I’m fine… should I appeal it? I feel incredibly ignored and just swept under the carpet. But if they are just going to decide that because I have job, have my license and am studying AAt is it worth it?

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  • Sorry to hear Andi

    I would appeal like you've done before and you won.  I think its a game of attrition they play - award 0 points and see how many just don;t bother taking it to mandatory reconsideration (MR) and appeal

    I got 0 points recently for my first PIP application - mostly because their decision is based on me working, driving not on any medication or under CMHT, and I sounded OK (not anxious) on the telephone and could answer questions about myself - but ignored what I said or provided with the application.  So I've just this week sent off for MR and not expecting them to change so will go to appeal.

    Its definitely worth it - please don't accept their decision - it sounds that your case is strong given you've previously had PIP and from what you say, DWP is exaggerating the impact of your recent achievements, more than the difference they make to you, so their logic which their decision is based on, is wrong 

    good luck - keep us posted on your progress!

  • in reply to Jalapeno

    I just feel so frustrated. Mines the same,  They said that because I have my license (it’s automatic only I wasn’t safe to do manual I was crashing into curbs..) even though it took me 18 months to pass and I’ve not been in a car since (I’m really hoping that changes soon so I can actually try to be more independent (that and my bills is what pip was going on) that I no longer need it. The person on the phone sounded so sympathetic from what I could tell (could have been a play but hey ho) I was honest and told the truth. I’m on the wait list for intensive cbt and I want to find coping mechanisms so I don’t feel so overwhelmed from just existing but I feel like because I’m trying (absolutely no disrespect to those who can’t work I know I’m lucky to be in a position to be able to work) I’m brushed aside yknow? I wouldn’t know where to go to appeal any more if they are just going to use that I work that I’m doing an apprenticeship against me I’d ask citizens advice but the one local to me is by phone only now not email so that’s another thing I struggle with 

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  • in reply to Jalapeno

    I just feel so frustrated. Mines the same,  They said that because I have my license (it’s automatic only I wasn’t safe to do manual I was crashing into curbs..) even though it took me 18 months to pass and I’ve not been in a car since (I’m really hoping that changes soon so I can actually try to be more independent (that and my bills is what pip was going on) that I no longer need it. The person on the phone sounded so sympathetic from what I could tell (could have been a play but hey ho) I was honest and told the truth. I’m on the wait list for intensive cbt and I want to find coping mechanisms so I don’t feel so overwhelmed from just existing but I feel like because I’m trying (absolutely no disrespect to those who can’t work I know I’m lucky to be in a position to be able to work) I’m brushed aside yknow? I wouldn’t know where to go to appeal any more if they are just going to use that I work that I’m doing an apprenticeship against me I’d ask citizens advice but the one local to me is by phone only now not email so that’s another thing I struggle with 

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  • in reply to andi

    Don't be hard on yourself - i know easier said than done

    you may want to look at https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/ who have a forum to ask questions.  I've got some good info from the moderators on there

    yes employment can come at a real cost to us - and the stats for employment are not good, and just because you're in a job , doesn't mean everything is OK.

    This is what I wrote on my MR letter I sent earlier this week - obviously this is my perspective on how work affects me, but thought others might relate to some or all, and probably also have additional/different issues and impact from their job and workplace:

    "The decision appears to rely heavily on the fact that I am in employment. This does not accurately reflect my functional ability.

    I am only able to remain in work because of substantial adjustments, structured routines, reduced exposure to stressful environments, and ongoing support. My role requires significant compensation, including over-preparation, masking, and cognitive effort, which leads to exhaustion and impacts my ability to function outside work.

    My employment should not be taken as evidence that I can carry out daily living activities reliably without difficulty. Sustaining work comes at the expense of other areas of my life, including social engagement, household tasks, and recovery time"