Reasonable adjustment at a job interview

My son is a 20 year old with autism and maybe ADD who has been studying practical woodland management at special colleges under an EHCP and is currently out of paid work and education.it has been very hard finding local companies to give even a day or 2 of unpaid work experience despite his relevant qualifications and experience.
 He just applied for a council apprenticeship that is just the sort of job he wants to do. They state they are a disability friendly employer. I helped him with the application process as it was too complex for him online. He has been invited to interview but it is very challenging for him to go to a strange place to meet 2 unknown interviewers in a closed door office. He has not done this before. He can speak to people better outside ( which the job would entail) or if he has met them briefly before. 

They asked if he needs any adjustment for his disability for interview. So he emailed them asking if he could bring someone into the interview (me) for moral support. Shockingly they sent a blunt email saying no. Whoever he brings must stay in reception ‘for privacy reasons’. I am shocked and now worried that this first interview experience could put him off ever applying for a job again if they do not handle the situation sensitively. 

does anyone have any advice as I thought this was a very minor reasonable adjustment. Ideally he would have asked for a 5 minute Zoom call beforehand too the week before to informally meet the interviewer before going into the room too which would be much more autism friendly but from that first reply could not ask for that either. Cry

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  • Good morning from America, RachelA

    Shockingly they sent a blunt email saying no.

    Oof, big red flag there. There shouldn’t be an issue with bringing in another person unless he’s applying for something that deals with highly confidential work, which does not sound like what he’s applying for. It’s not like your son is joining the CIA. I agree that this was a reasonable adjustment and I would recommend probably looking elsewhere rather than possibly put your son through a situation he would not be comfortable being in. Especially if this is his first interview experience, that might be best done with a safe person with him.

  • Thank you for advice all the way from the US! We have a contact with a familiar council career advisor for young people struggling to find work, so I have asked him too for his reaction, as he has the same employer. He is coaching my son for the interview next week so can help to familiarise him with the likely scenario. He can then decide if he feels able to give it a go as a learning experience. 
    Afterwards I will offer their Recruitment team some feedback on ways to be more autism inclusive and the importance of some adjustment to get the chance to assess candidates with ASD social and emotional challenges, in their comfort zone. 

  • That sounds perfect! Having a career advisor is an excellent idea. I work as an employment specialist for people with disabilities, which sounds like it might be a similar thing. Having someone like that on your team is great.

    I like the idea of you giving them some feedback. If they really want to advertise that they are inclusive, then they definitely need to at LEAST be alright with a safe person in interviews.

    My guess is that the reason they don’t want to have another person in the interview is the fear that the safe person will do all the talking. The easy solution is: Don’t hire the applicant if that happens! lol. Sorry, it boggles my mind when employers don’t allow that accommodation.

  • I think it's also because if a person needs a safe person at the interview, will they need a safe person while working.  I've always hated interviews and I went through a phase of not really caring about them.  Some employers understand, some don't.  When i was in IT I would turn up to interviews in jeans, t-shirt and trainers.  I was also surprised at how many jobs I got offered and I think being an individual rather than another nameless face counts for something. 

    A job interview is about proving your worth and nothing much more.  So you take a portfolio with you, have some references from your college or if established just give them company contacts.  He needs to tell them what he did at college, mention some projects he did (tree surveys, surveys and management of ancient woodland, studies into Ash Dieback, biosecurity topics, etc). Any interests in specific topics.  Also his hobbies.  What he thinks his strengths and weaknesses are.  That is pretty much it.  Tell him to write it down if that is what is required. Also make sure they know they are interviewing a person with a disability because if they try and screw you over it opens up legal avenues.  Not all employers are honorable. 

    Tell him to look beyond the council as well.  See if Forestry England have any apprenticeships or opportunities.  I always had interest in training as a Forest Ranger, but couldn't commit to the training schedules due to other commitments, but it might work for your son depending on where you live.  there are community projects and similar opportunities if searched for.  The national parks often have their own woodland management people.  Some bio/research companies also have forest projects.  Contacting the college he was at will maybe get you some ideas.  But without knowing where in the country you are it's hard to know where to look.

    https://www.forestryengland.uk/careers
    https://www.nationaltrustjobs.org.uk/where-you-could-work/countryside/
    https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/countryside-ranger
    https://defrajobs.co.uk/
    https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/search?loc=86383&q=forestry
    https://jobs.woodlandtrust.org.uk/

    Hope that helps him a bit.

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  • I think it's also because if a person needs a safe person at the interview, will they need a safe person while working.  I've always hated interviews and I went through a phase of not really caring about them.  Some employers understand, some don't.  When i was in IT I would turn up to interviews in jeans, t-shirt and trainers.  I was also surprised at how many jobs I got offered and I think being an individual rather than another nameless face counts for something. 

    A job interview is about proving your worth and nothing much more.  So you take a portfolio with you, have some references from your college or if established just give them company contacts.  He needs to tell them what he did at college, mention some projects he did (tree surveys, surveys and management of ancient woodland, studies into Ash Dieback, biosecurity topics, etc). Any interests in specific topics.  Also his hobbies.  What he thinks his strengths and weaknesses are.  That is pretty much it.  Tell him to write it down if that is what is required. Also make sure they know they are interviewing a person with a disability because if they try and screw you over it opens up legal avenues.  Not all employers are honorable. 

    Tell him to look beyond the council as well.  See if Forestry England have any apprenticeships or opportunities.  I always had interest in training as a Forest Ranger, but couldn't commit to the training schedules due to other commitments, but it might work for your son depending on where you live.  there are community projects and similar opportunities if searched for.  The national parks often have their own woodland management people.  Some bio/research companies also have forest projects.  Contacting the college he was at will maybe get you some ideas.  But without knowing where in the country you are it's hard to know where to look.

    https://www.forestryengland.uk/careers
    https://www.nationaltrustjobs.org.uk/where-you-could-work/countryside/
    https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/countryside-ranger
    https://defrajobs.co.uk/
    https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/search?loc=86383&q=forestry
    https://jobs.woodlandtrust.org.uk/

    Hope that helps him a bit.

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