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Now I'm scared

TheCatWoman

Starmer has announced that he's introducing digital ID cards and as yet theres no alterantive for those of us with no smart phones, althought "they're going to consult" on it, who with or how we don't know. But quite frankly this news has me really scared, terriied, I'm shaking and may have to take some anti-anxiety meds. 

I can see a situation where my Mum, me and a few of our neighbours are going to be illegal in our own country and unable to access services.

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  • I know uncertainty is very difficult especially about something you'd be anxious about anyway. But at the moment they haven't confirmed exactly what is what. It is going to take a lot of time to set up and roll out. This is going to be something that pops up next week or next month. 

    They are going to have to consider those without smart phones. Whether the reason for having one is not liking them or not having the capacity to be able to use it is irrelevant. They will have to have an alternative option. They cannot make British citizens illegal because they don't have a smart phone.

    Try not to get too caught up in catatrophising. Try to wait and see what details come out so you know what is actually going to happen. Really difficult I know though. Look after yourself. Plenty of self care.

  • in reply to Expecto_Patronum

    I've already signed the petition.

    I'm honestly not sure they will make a non digital version available, I think they're more likely to tell us we have to have one, even if they end up giving us a device for it, just like they made people with no bank accounts use the post office cash machine to get benefits. Hopefully my GP's surgery won't bother as they know us all anyway and we're all on first name terms, even the doctors use tier first names.

    I ownder what will happen if people refuse to have one or carry it? WIll it be like when you're stopped by the police and have to attend a station with all your car documents and a fine if you don't? Maybe there will be mass civil disobedience if they bring them in, I would be a part of that disobedience.

  • in reply to TheCatWoman

    I'm not sure they'd be able to refuse a non digital version. There will be other people that are just not able to use a smart phone version. Whether they make it so it's searchable so you have an online ID but not on your person so work places or whatever could access it. Or there would need to be some kind of hard copy version but you'd possibly have to attend some kind of in person type thing like when you do with visas.

    It's going to take a long time for them to set up individual IDs for the whole country so this wont be happening any time soon. I'd imagine it would have a gradual roll out as well to test it first.

    I've no idea what would happen if people refused. They'd have to change the law to make it compulsory first. I've never heard of people having to attend a police station with all their car documents. Why does that happen? I've only been stopped by the police once (for nothing) and they just looked up my driver's license on their system. I didn't have to do anything.

  • in reply to Deleted User

    Although I have a smartphone it has no personal data on it - no email accounts and no banking apps because if it gets stolen the contents of the phone is usually worth more than the phone to criminals.

    Adding personal ID to the haul a criminal would get when stealing a phone is idiotic.

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