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Religion and Spirituality

TheCatWoman

I know this is a contentious issue, but I wnat to talk about it anyway and I hope people can be respectful to the beliefs of others. 

It seems to me that although we in the UK are called a Christian country, we're not, most people don't attend church, many are nominally Christian, church for hatchings, matchings and despatchings, maybe xmas and easter too. Many will attend church to get their children into a high performing church school. Our main bank holidays focus on a Christian festival calendar, Easter, Pentecost, Xmas etc, but I wonder if we should add the holy days of other faiths, like EId, Diwali, the Solticies?

We have so many faiths in this country and many people who don't identify with any particular faith, but are broadly believers in something.

I'd like to see bishops removed from the House of Lords and the Church of England disestablished, in a multifath society I don't see what their place is in the giovernance of the country, I think you either have to have representatives of all faiths or none and seeing as many faiths don't have an episcopal system I don't see how it would work where the representatives come from and which community would they be representing? I think the same is true of the current situation and bishops, there are many Christian sects that do not recognise and episcopal system.  

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  • Interesting thread. The last National Statistics figures put Christanity at 46% in 2021 in the country but we had COVID then. 50% = majority usually. Some age groups in the church have been in some quiet revival and especially among the 18-24 year old age who are turning back to God. Interesting America is at 62% Christian according to PEW research and UK are often their ally;  I thnk things should stay as they are. Even more secular countries like France are turning to Christanity now and baptisms are up. https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/263349/france-sees-record-10384-adult-baptisms-in-2025-45-percent-increase-as-young-catholics-lead-revival

    It will be interesting when the next statistics come out. You haven't mentioned why you want things to change, are there areas of concern. I think the church can do things to help themselves which I wrote here to try and save money and make more diverse services if possible-

    To worship Christmas these days with councils is getting harder and harder. There is meant to a new church that Bishop Gulli talks of. She is a lovely woman.

    https://www.racheltestimony.com/2025/08/my-ideas-on-reducing-church-costs-today.html

    www.racheltestimony.com/.../open-letter-to-catholic-churchs-today.html

  • in reply to RachelO
    RachelO said:
    The last National Statistics figures put Christanity at 46% in 2021 in the country but we had COVID then. 50% = majority usually.

    Can you clarify what the 50% is of what group please?

    The stats from the graph below show only 32% of people believe in any god in the UK. If your figure is 50% of these people then it means it is only 16% of people in the country are christians in a meaningful sense (ie believers rather than ones who just use the label because they were raised that way).

    Tricky things statistics.

  • in reply to Iain

    It is from here- The National Statistics 2021 cenus data. 

    • For the first time in a census of England and Wales, less than half of the population (46.2%, 27.5 million people) described themselves as “Christian”, a 13.1 percentage point decrease from 59.3% (33.3 million) in 2011; despite this decrease, “Christian” remained the most common response to the religion question.

      www.ons.gov.uk/.../census2021
  • in reply to TheCatWoman

    I am not sure what you mean, but you raised about Paul and how perhaps he might not that compassionate in style I thought and so I thought I would say that. God obviously thought that was necessary in the Bible what Paul wrote. They all work together. Today I was telling my mum about love in the Bible now I left the bit where people should give to charity etc as she does it and I didn't her to think I had any judgement of her. It didn't apply to her she does more than enough already. So you can read some things in the Bible but if you are not got that problem it doesn't apply to you as such and may apply to some like struggling with an addiction to viewing adult material they don't want to online. I have come across people like that online trying to change and so advise on sensaulity doesn't apply to them so much and others if they want to can take note.

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  • in reply to TheCatWoman

    I am not sure what you mean, but you raised about Paul and how perhaps he might not that compassionate in style I thought and so I thought I would say that. God obviously thought that was necessary in the Bible what Paul wrote. They all work together. Today I was telling my mum about love in the Bible now I left the bit where people should give to charity etc as she does it and I didn't her to think I had any judgement of her. It didn't apply to her she does more than enough already. So you can read some things in the Bible but if you are not got that problem it doesn't apply to you as such and may apply to some like struggling with an addiction to viewing adult material they don't want to online. I have come across people like that online trying to change and so advise on sensaulity doesn't apply to them so much and others if they want to can take note.

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