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What is wrong with people since Covid in the U.K.?

IrishInManchesterUK

Having lived in the U.K. 23 years with many English friends (and where in many respects, the situation is much worse in my native Republic of Ireland) I only recently came across a video talking about the potential destruction of the U.K. (on top of other things I’d seen online) but, having watched a lot of patterns and trends of things about life in general in the U.K. since Covid, what really took me aback and horrified me was that some people here in the U.K. were actually actively calling for the U.K. to “crash and burn” as if they were in “self-destruct” mode and some of my English friends have even expressed similar sentiments, despite the history and heritage of England (even if historically we Irish and English have not always seen “eye to eye” over the centuries) - this goes beyond simply accepting a given situation, it’s actively calling for the destruction of one’s nation, which frankly, as an Irish patriot, I find horrifying - there is a certain element of this back home in Ireland but not to the same extent as it is here in the U.K. and I often wonder if this is a spiritual deficiency - I’ve always regarded things relating to Covid as being a cross-generational spiritual battle and it’s even made me think about our own Irish history, were we Irish ever really free in any part of our history, either in centuries past, the Easter Rising of 1916, the Treaty of 1921, the Civil War of 1922 and even after we became a Republic in 1949 - many people in Irish patriot circles still say that the influence of the British Crown never really left Ireland and this was also replaced by the EU snd the globalists in the US as well as the CCP indirect influences - living in Manchester, its been a lot more stable in many respects during and after Covid, compared to many other parts of the U.K. and certainly in comparison to Ireland, which post-Covid, has lurched from crisis to crisis 

  • in reply to RachelO

    I was diagnosed as an adult, I was 50, it was before covid, but I think that covid made people have to stop and take stock of thier lives and without their usual distractions a lot of stuff that was bubbling away under the surface came to the fore. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more people seeking therapy either. Awareness of autism and ADHD were growing before the pandemic so I think we would of seen this rise anyway. More people are seeing their children and grandchildren diagnosed too and seeing the same traits in themselves and so are going for diagnosis.

    Whilst covid was a huge jolt to our collective system things were changing before then.

  • It is very strange what has happened post COVID. Covid led to an increase people going to be diagnosed ADHD. Also, it semed like more people 40+ are being diagnosed with autism. It seems like those in age are beinG diagnosed an experiencing meltdowns and overhwhelming issues may be at levels with stims that they didn't experience in their  earlier lives. It is like COVID had an impact on them. COVID came at a time when I was  facing a significant milestone that robbed me of my plans. Things have changed post COVID.

  • I don’t think people want the UK to crash and burn. There may be certain aspects of our economy and our government that are so broken that until they fail completely no one will be willing to address them and the changes that are needed. In that sense you might imagine it as ripping off the Band-Aid.

    The housing market for example, house prices are hugely overinflated. The market crash is going to cause a lot of pain for a lot of people. and not always an obvious places. A lot of pension funds have invested heavily in housing because they think it’s a market but secure reliable and will always go up in value. A sudden drop could put a lot of private pensions at risk. It could trap people in Home’s tthey are unable to sell.

    it will also help a huge number of people to get a house of their own. It will help bring down rents. it may even encourage developers to build more affordable housing because in a house price crash affordable housing tends to retain value better (and of course in the house price boom tends to increase in value more slowly)

    sometimes the only way for the higher-ups to realise that they can’t keep ignoring a problem is for that problem to become absolutely Fatal.

  • in reply to TheCatWoman

    There are austere social conservatives in the uk who want to return to a now very old fashioned way of doing things in the way the irishinmanchester seems to be in favour of.  But they are now mainly very old and I'd say Irish's views would be in a minority even amongst the older generation these days.

    The social attitudes of the 1950's and before are not coming back

  • in reply to Red82 (Formerly Mellowjian)

    I agree with Red, although I'm still not sure what you really mean and what you're trying to say.

    Covid was a massive shock to our collective system, I know lots of people didn't like lockdown, well I guess none of us liked it, but some coped better than others, but what was the alternative to lockdown? At the time we had no test for it, we knew people were dying in quite high numbers and those that recovered, many have been left with long term side effects. Would those who thought lockdown as some kind of assault on our freedoms have preffered an even higher number of deaths? Personally I don't see what alternative there was and I think if we'd have had the courage to lockdown sooner we would of had to lockdown for a shorter period of time. I don't see what religion has to do with it, people of all faiths and none were affected, disease dosen't discriminate on faith lines.

    To me the start of a very two sided, us and them kind of thinking came about over the Brexit debate, although to be honest I'm not sure much of it could or should be dignified with the word debate, slanging match seems more appropriate in many cases.

    Either, or's rarely make for good descisions, the world is full of grey areas, mulitple  options would of been better rather than allowing one side or the other to hijack peoples thoughts and try and turn them into one course of action.

  • Most Uk folk are not Reactionary Catholics.  I would say most in the UK are of no religion even if some may put Church of England on their census form.

    Most Britons would see most of your ideas as extreme and beyond the pale.

    I'm sorry to be so blunt about it, but this is the truth as I see it.

  • There is more division since COVID, I would say. Plus other things that are really out of our control.

  • Sorry but I'm not sure what  you're trying to say?