Do you miss a good discussion?

'Archaeologists using artificial intelligence (AI) have discovered hundreds of new geoglyphs depicting parrots, cats, monkeys, killer whales and even decapitated heads near the Nazca Lines in Peru, in a find that nearly doubles the number of known figures at the enigmatic 2,000-year-old archaeological site.

A team from the Japanese University of Yamagata’s Nazca Institute, in collaboration with IBM Research, discovered 303 previously unknown geoglyphs of humans and animals – all smaller in size than the vast geometric patterns that date from AD200-700 and stretch across more than 400 sq km of the Nazca plateau.'

www.theguardian.com/.../nazca-lines-peru-new-geoglyphs

Why don't  you say it to my face?  Are you a  coward?

I did look at that link FM, thanks, it looks like it will be an intereting study

Thread on Anglo Saxon . Not sure whether you'll be able to see it.

genarchivist.com/showthread.php

You didn't upset me Cat, I was just a little puzzled by your OP, but I understand now.

If people have strong views I believe that challenging them with a different view will not change theirs, and as I find it difficult to control my emotions I find arguments upsetting. But I know that some people enjoy a good old "heated debate". We're all different. I know you have an interest in politics, but that's something I stopped talking to others about years ago. Life's too short to be spending it in conflict, in my opinion, but if yours is different I respect that. As I heard someone once say: "You do you, and I'll do me". 

Debbie I just read one of the threads you mentioned and if I'd of been around at the time then I owuld of responded and agreed with much of what you say and challenged many of the ideas I didn't.

Pixie, I do try and respect the views of others, and agree that there should be many topics that are not contravercial, but I've come to the conclusion that there's no such thing and what ever one posts about there will be somebody who takes offence. I do think there are some people who are a sense of offence looking for somewhere to happen, I've seen it numerous times online and in fleshyland, amoung people of all different backgrounds, neurologies and any other conditions anyone could mention. As I said to Debbie, obviously there are some thnings that will trigger others, but the otherside of being aware of that is treading constantly on eggshells and being afraid to say anything. Not being able to see facial expressions and body language are problems when interacting with people remotely, although I'm sure there are many here who don't feel confident in thier ability to read those expressions.

I wasn't tryiing to start a discussion on the Anglo-Saxons, but maybe I will now thanks to your suggestion, I was using them as an example.

I think everyone gets upset when an enjoyable thread suddenly becomes a battle ground, I think as autists our instinct maybe to duck back behind the parapet, but there are times when that becomes less possible or desirable. One of the reasons it becomes undesirable is because others take silence as agreement and this 'silent majority' become a political football for those with frequently undesirable viewpoints to use as a shield in thier attempts to other various groups of people.

I'm sorry if I upset anyone, my OP was probably not the best thought out post I've ever made, and upsetting people was never my intention.

Yeh exactly. You’re on the mark there. People need to be respectful of each other. Unfortunately they’re just not on this forum. For whatever reason, kinda sucks to be a bitter person who picks on others who are trying to help them. If you need help go seek it or something don’t just take your negativity out on everyone else. You know what I mean?

I don't miss the sort of discussion that's happened on here. It seems that every couple of months this sort of thing happens, and it rather upsets me.

Cat woman - I am not blaming you - I was a little confused by your original post to be honest, as I wasn't sure why you would mention challenging viewpoints when you seemed to wish to start a discussion about Anglo Saxons. Did you think that this would cause controversy? I can't see it myself, but I'm possibly a bit naive - however I would be interested in the subject. Perhaps you could start a new thread just called "Discussion on Anglo Saxons" and start it by telling us what you learned?

(Thank you for the compliment about my discussion thread on AI by the way. Thankfully that didn't seem to cause any problems.)

When we are posting on here, we need to keep in mind that it's difficult online to convey meaning, without any facial expression or tone of voice, and people may misinterpret or be offended by something you did not intend to offend with. I have done this myself in the past, and apologised, as a couple of people were upset because they viewed my post as "othering" or offensive to neurotypical people. It wasn't my intention, but I could see how that happened. Here's a link to the thread if you want to read it:

community.autism.org.uk/.../neurotypical-disorder---a-comparison-between-autistic-nt-minds

There are posts on this thread which could be interpreted as dismissing other people's views, or making them feel like their different view is not valid, even if that was not the intention.

I have a good friend who I hold opposite views with on a couple of subjects - we just dont talk about them. instead of trying to change the other's view or belittling it, we accept that we can each hold different views while still respecting each other, and leave it there. Plenty more to talk about that isn't controversial.

I'm not saying anyone deliberately tried to upset anyone here, I'm just saying that we need to be very respectful of other peoples ideas and views, to prevent people keeping leaving the forum. After all, when it's good, it's great. 

Sorry Debbie thats not how I meant my answer, I know people do get triggered and I will read the threads you mentioned.

I'm left wondering what a "controvercy" is tbh.

I have noticed that a lot of people who bang on about freedom of speech don't seem to like having their view of the world challenged.

As you say.  Serious discussion is best avoided on here.  We're better off focusing on our commonalities rather than any disagreements.

Thankyou comrade.

Thank you very much for defending me.

TheCatWoman said:

are afraid to because of the people who are a sense of offence looking for somewhere to happen? Some people do want to just float along and never have a controvercy violate thier brains, but you guys don't have to join in with a thread that's contravercial and yet you do and often  it makes the whole situation worse.

That's a very one sided judgemental viewpoint.

Have you heard of triggers and vulnerabilities?

It might be useful to read some of the threads I linked to.

I think it's up to other members to choose whether they want to respond especially if it's personally offensive and not for 'you' to say what they can and can't do.

Look I’m having difficult time in life right now and no one is cutting me any slack. I understand we have our ‘trusted friends’ and everything but I have no friends so there’s that. Sadly we don’t all get eve try thing in life. Or remotely anything if your me for that matter.

Golly what a can of worms I opened here! I didn't even think anyone would bother answering and the thread would disapear into the unread ether.

The Anglo-Saxons I'm talking about are from at least 1500 years ago, not current ideological iterations on who deserves to live where and how.

So lots of people would like to be able to discuss things more freely, but are afraid to because of the people who are a sense of offence looking for somewhere to happen? Some people do want to just float along and never have a controvercy violate thier brains, but you guys don't have to join in with a thread that's contravercial and yet you do and often  it makes the whole situation worse.

I will come back to this thread as I'm to decaffienated to concentrate properly on it and I'm waiting for a call from the garage to see how my MOT went, pray for it please!

I'm so confused. The order in which posts are presented doesn't help me figure these threads out. But you are joking here, right? (It's hard for me to tell)

Yellow tree 118 said:

That’s gaslighting. I am reporting this I feel attacked and under threat here.

I think you misunderstand.

I highlighted two members reading a post completely differently and taking opposite views on it.

One set of words, two sets of interpretations.

Then, you say I am gaslighting which is an interpretation I hadn't expected or intended and that you feel I am threatening you.

It's a minefield.

That’s gaslighting. I am reporting this I feel attacked and under threat here.

We agree then! (as in it is pointless arguing) I'd prefer to talk about Fallout!