I really don’t get this

Also, the more intelligent you are, the more stupidity you will notice.  It enrages me every day of my life.  Then when you do find intelligent people you cannot assume that they are also ethical.  I'm debating other intelligent folk online every day at the moment but many do not totally agree with me.  The 2010's essentially proved that the majority of Britons do not agree with me. Now I'm fighting a rearguard action against apparatchiks.

I may as well just give up. And for large portions of each year, I do give up.   But i've got a bee in my bonnet at the moment and an angel on my shoulder that says" don't let them win"

Sigh.

A friend of mine coined the term "misagreeable", and although he wasn't thinking of us Autists at all.... 

I personally find that the Autism makes us be what my neighbor describes as "hard work" and I suggest that's becuse we get so much guff when we start out in life, that we develop a much lower tolerance for "guff" or in many cases hypervigilance. 

Yeah, I'm afraid I can relate to the other people in the group you attended as being misunderstood. Part of why I struggle being in groups - social/business/whatever - is because I'm invariably obsessively self-conscious of doing anything that can be misinterpreted, as is most likely the case when I obsessively try to analyse every possible movement and variation in time/space. The 'flat face' may come into play here and, in my use of it, it is certainly not directed against anyone. Just where my eyes happen to focus on while my brain races off to make the neurological connections at a billion mph. Then inevitably the data captured by my eyes and brain meet and I realise I'm staring so I go out of my way to ignore that person because I've convinced myself that they are being made to feel uncomfortable and quite possibly wish I didn't exist. Then I 'reset' but feel that if I turn my attention to the person who I've 'blocked out' in my head, it will not be understood the way I understand it after trying to 'start again' and everything just becomes a big old f*** up. ♂️

I'm sure that this bizarre summary of bizarre brain activity resonates with fellow autistics. Though if not, perhaps it is just me.

Off to the local pub now to stare into space and contemplate existence, alternately hoping that someone approaches me/that no-one approaches me. Like a weird version of Trigger from Only Fools and Horses.

Ive been friends with an autistic person for 7 months who i actually like i have to say the communication is one sided and hard work i cannot get a straight answer or understand him, i have to always initiate the conversation but i value his friendship he is very caring and loyal and no matter how frustrated i am with him he will always be a friend. He doesn't understand how to maintain a friendship  

I've learnt the hard way that being friends with other autistic people can go one of two ways.

It'll either be great or catastrophic. There's no middle ground. I was friends with an autistic person who was instrumental in my life being blown to pieces, and I think a neurotypical person would have dealt with that very differently. 

I can imagine.

 I think elements of the old intellectual Britain still exist, but you just have to know where to look for those elements. Both online and offline.

ok that's so nice of you thank you so much

ok I'm always here for you and don't worry about  the sadness at all

Don't they just, it's even worse being an intelligent woman as there are so many social prejudices.

I think Britain has an anti-intellectual bias at the best of times, but how is it in other countries?

I identify with that a lot.

People hate the intelligent and see us as tall poppies who need to be brought down a peg or two.

I definitely am.  Nt's are blander with less opinions, whereas two autists can clash.

Digs at my lifestyle choices, and an indirect dig at my appearance, i believe. Perhaps his way of saying that I'm not his type. His energy was different too. And it felt intentional. 

I was only looking for friendship. And he was aware of that. 

I know exactly what you mean, I get the same thing, I'm not good at groups at the best of times and I have a tendency to blunder into situations where angels fear to tread. I find people afraid and uninterested in current affairs, I rarely watch the same tv as them, I refuse to go along with group think, I find I have very little in common with others, even when we share interests we don't seem to share the same bits.

Apparently I scare a lot of people because I'm tall and have pressence, I can and will talk about almost anything and will challenge opinions I disagree with, usually gently, but I can be quite firm when pushed. Men in particular don't seem to like this and their WAGS will side with them. I don't dress the same as others either, I don't wear make-up or gold jewelery, I dont' drink alcohol and I've not quite vegan.

I've never been to an ASC social group as most of them seem to be for much younger people than me, the only contact I had with the group that supports ASC people didn't listen and gaslit me. Being gaslit by being challenged about whether something happened or not when they weren't there really pee'd me off and made me not want to go back, it wasn't like it was anything major either, but just the fact that they felt it was OK put me off.

I also can't help that I'm intelligent, I refuse to hide it and don't see why I should. I'm also quite funny and make people laugh a lot, some people don't like that either, especially that I can banter really well as thats what I grew up with, sarcastic comments, backchat and extravagant descriptions. Although I think that's because were I grew up was a cultural melting pot and humour was how people rubbed along together, it's something I've noticed with other people who grew up in cultural melting pots.

Tea and me do not mix as when I drink tea I pee A LOT lol

Well yeh I mean if your autistic and struggle with communication then trying to befriend someone else who also struggles with communication can be doubly hard can’t it?

That’s nice yeh I will get friends one of these days. I seem to get on with NTs better but dunno why. I’m probably quite NT

Aw what did he do to behave like that? As I was saying these people probably don’t mean it or something not really sure. 

Yeh true. 

I think it is totally luck of the draw. The chances of making friends in a random group of people is probably low. But with enough rolls of the dice , may still happen. Basing on interests is a brilliant thing to do too.

I find groups difficult too. 

When I attended one a couple of weeks ago, I was really thrown by someone's behaviour towards me. Previously he'd been nice, thoughtful and funny. On the later occasion he was behaving like an a***. It's made me feel like I don't want to attend anymore. It's made me question myself, and how well I actually know him.

My friend has said to give it another chance. And that maybe he was anxious, overwhelmed or stressed ? And I need to make allowances. But I often feel those things myself, but I don't behave like an a***.