Autism and ADHD

Hi everyone

I’ve been off my meds for nearly a month now, for the first time since I had my autism diagnosis, and am in the process of getting to know myself again.

Part of that has been to revisit the possibility that I have ADHD, or more specifically ADD, as well. There are many symptoms common to both ADHD and autism though so it’s difficult to tease them apart.

I know there are quite a few AuDHD people on this forum though. So can any of you describe the difference in experience, symptoms and behaviours between “vanilla” autism and AuDHD?

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  • I've done a LOT of self-directed research here, if anyone is interested. 

    I think the easiest way to understand the "Link" between Autism and ADHD is Monotropism.

    We both experience difficulty with executive function and we both have difficulty with a linear time stream. We both have lower "Inhibition" in the brain and difficulty filtering out sense-perception. We both can process at a particularity fantastic speed. 

    We're VERY similar to our ADHD friends. We even team up well. But key differences are quite specific. Does a stimulant make you feel calm, collected, grounded? That's ADHD. Does it feel impossible to interpret and not be misinterpreted N-Typcial society? That's Autism. Do you need to do one thing at a time and finish it or you become hazardous? That's Autism. Are you who we should all rely on in an emergency? That's ADHD. 

    While there's a good deal of research now on the similarities at a biological level, I've found it important to me (personally) to work out if a thing is a genuine difficulty/difference or if I just need to make the extra effort and do the thing I'm too lazy to do which will feel great tomorrow and keep me awake if I don't.  

  • But key differences are quite specific. Does a stimulant make you feel calm, collected, grounded? That's ADHD. Does it feel impossible to interpret and not be misinterpreted N-Typcial society? That's Autism. Do you need to do one thing at a time and finish it or you become hazardous? That's Autism. Are you who we should all rely on in an emergency? That's ADHD. 

    This is the challenge for me - i tick all those boxes except the stimulant one because i haven't tried any.

  • Coffee is a stimulant.  Consider and experiment with it possibly?

  • I tried pro-plus around age 18-20 and found that by the time I had 'em "working right" I also felt quite ill.

    Like Amerantin, coffee seems ineffective. I currenllty need 2 cigarettes and two cups of coffee in the morning to get going and it's always been really hard to leave the house within 2 hours of arising.   

  • Put it this way. I'm in my 60s, and find the NHS increasingly difficult to access and when I do, I get poor quality service or fobbed off often whilst being talked DOWN to by an idiot.

    So when I go off piste soon, and start experimenting with amphetamines as a means of obtaining better personal productiivity (which I've been wanting to do for many, many, years now) would there be any benefit to this community in sharing my experience? 

    Specifically, to use a biblical term, I have fallen into the grip of the sin of "Sloth", which to me does seem to present as "depression", or even failing health and old age, (how the hell do I know as my interioception is really shot?)

    I remember that particular medication being trasnformative when I tried it once recreationally as a youth, dead useful when I did a piece of work that involved driving, loading, driving, unloading, then returning a lorry for 33 hours straight in my early thirties.  

  • but it’s never had any effect on me

    This sounds like classic ADHD ;)

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