Not telling the truth

Hi community 

Just wanted to put this out there really as it’s something that I really have to do to survive in this Nt world. I am self diagnosed atm but seeking assessment (my son’s therapist says I’m extremely high functioning). I’m sorry if that HF word offends anyone but I find it describes the way I am quite well and I’m not sure how to describe myself any other way. My number one purpose all through my life has been to make others happy and feel good about themselves, I can do this with most people but there are some that I can’t even bare to speak to. I can exaggerate to people if it keeps me out of trouble particularly with my partner as she has a fuse that’s about a millimetre long. I can also do this if it’s pleasing people or to make them feel better about something, I think I do this because I was always taught as a child that what other people think about you is so important. My wife’s reaction to some of the different ways I do things or things I forget can be way over the top, I seem to pick up on this energy before anything is even spoken about. So for that reason to avoid negative energy or to aid my masking I do exaggerate the truth to survive, I hate having to do it but I can. I feel really quite sad even saying this on here and can say that everything I have posted on here has always been the truth 100%. I feel terribly guilty for doing this but how do I stay undetected without it? How do I not get in trouble at home without it? Does anyone else do this to get by? 
This is just the latest thing I have been beating myself up about since the reality hitting me that I’m autistic. Yesterday was a good day and didn’t feel like giving myself too much of a hard time but this is what’s been going through my mind in the early hours of this morning. 

Thank you for reading this post 

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  • Autistic people tend to be intrinsically honest and direct. What you are doing sounds more for the benefit of meeting the expectations of others and protecting yourself than any malevolent intent to deceive. I would agree that it sounds like fawning, which is a type of masking behaviour generally to protect ourselves.

    I think I do this because I was always taught as a child that what other people think about you is so important.

    That is fundamentally untrue and can form the basis of social anxiety. You were taught to ignore your own needs and put others first, no matter the personal cost.

    I can exaggerate to people if it keeps me out of trouble particularly with my partner as she has a fuse that’s about a millimetre long.

    This is an example of you doing this as a pre-emptive defensive mechanism.

    The only thing I can’t relate to is that it says it normally stems from childhood trauma and repeated trauma at that (so not a single traumatic event) I was lucky to have a good childhood as in how my parents were with me.

    Very few autistic children emerge un-traumatised. No matter how good your home life, at school you may have been subjected to bullying or ostracism or suffered constantly invalidated sensory trauma. The parts of the brain that are activated as a result of what what society deems to be traumatic incidents are actually activated in the brains of autistic people as a result or relatively minor and everyday events. The effects are no different but how society perceives them is.

    Some articles that may be helpful:

    https://sunshine-support.org/masking-and-fawning-our-survival-instincts

    https://embrace-autism.com/the-link-between-autism-and-ptsd/

    https://themighty.com/topic/autism-spectrum-disorder/childhood-trauma-autism/

    https://transformingautism.org/traumainautism/

  • I think I do this because I was always taught as a child that what other people think about you is so important.

    That is fundamentally untrue and can form the basis of social anxiety. You were taught to ignore your own needs and put others first, no matter the personal cost.

    I agree, you shouldn't harm your self for the benefit of just anyone. But this depends a great deal on what the desired outcome is.

    Caring what a child thinks of us is relevant to how we choose to speak around them. Children can be an impetus for all kinds of positive and healthy change. We might find we form new and good 'habits/disciplines' because we care about their perception of us.

    Sometimes caring about how we come across or are perceived is important to facilitate a new relationship, but on the basis that the ethics surrounding our decision have to do with everyone's well-being and growth. We may catch ourselves investing too much or too little in a way that's inappropriate or not quite how we would want to be treated. It's perfectly fine to wish to be someone others remember as kind and considerate, though with our eccentricities. 

    This can also matter when one's livelihood is a consequence. But again, it's far better to work on focusing on building the character of the self than always trying to worry about, read (and misread) others. We're not telepathic, but we kindness costs little. Everything is in relation-with. It's good to become someone I'd appreciate a relationship with. 

    Children are taught in ways to curb basic being within society so the disruption isn't cruel and costly (breaking a vase at someone's house or letting the entire room know just how gigantic Auntie Iris is. Most "Rules" require a bit of digging into. I feel it's productive to understand the underlying principle, so to hold others to it, should they require an unreasonable and obscure expectation from you.

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  • I think I do this because I was always taught as a child that what other people think about you is so important.

    That is fundamentally untrue and can form the basis of social anxiety. You were taught to ignore your own needs and put others first, no matter the personal cost.

    I agree, you shouldn't harm your self for the benefit of just anyone. But this depends a great deal on what the desired outcome is.

    Caring what a child thinks of us is relevant to how we choose to speak around them. Children can be an impetus for all kinds of positive and healthy change. We might find we form new and good 'habits/disciplines' because we care about their perception of us.

    Sometimes caring about how we come across or are perceived is important to facilitate a new relationship, but on the basis that the ethics surrounding our decision have to do with everyone's well-being and growth. We may catch ourselves investing too much or too little in a way that's inappropriate or not quite how we would want to be treated. It's perfectly fine to wish to be someone others remember as kind and considerate, though with our eccentricities. 

    This can also matter when one's livelihood is a consequence. But again, it's far better to work on focusing on building the character of the self than always trying to worry about, read (and misread) others. We're not telepathic, but we kindness costs little. Everything is in relation-with. It's good to become someone I'd appreciate a relationship with. 

    Children are taught in ways to curb basic being within society so the disruption isn't cruel and costly (breaking a vase at someone's house or letting the entire room know just how gigantic Auntie Iris is. Most "Rules" require a bit of digging into. I feel it's productive to understand the underlying principle, so to hold others to it, should they require an unreasonable and obscure expectation from you.

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