Government want to look at disability bank accounts to see what we are spending on: this is not good for us autistic.

I read that the government are wanting to look into all disability claimants bank accounts to see what we are spending money on and they can then say that oh! you spend the money on a certain item you should not so we are now going to cut your money. 

This is something that they hope to do in time, it has been on the online news. 

This would be terrible for us autistic people because a lot of people do not understand autism and how diverse we all are: 

for example: autistics might buy the following some might not and need other things for their autism: 

Felt tips, paper, pencils art things: they would not understand that this helps us stay calm by being creative and can help stop us going into further meltdowns etc. 

A computer and games: same reason as above

A piano and sheet music: could be a special interest and is needed for the autistic person and help stop meltdowns too. 

Fancy clothes: for me its 1950s style clothes, to express myself and I cant stand to wear certain clothes

Gluten free foods, special travel like a taxi as buses might be too stressful that day

An indoor clothes drier to stop damp 

collections of trains or magazines, comics etc 

Some people who dont understand autistim and will think that oh they are buying what they want not what they need, tut tut, they should not be buying that. 

What about the autistic that goes on the trains all day because they like it is sooths them. and then someone will say well if they ride trains all day let them work on the trains, but that autistic might be able to talk to people one day but then another day might be mute or unable to and could not work. 

yes there are autistics that can work, and those that work long term are ones that got lucky finding their job that is good for them for example they like action figures so work in a forbidden planet. and are okay with people as long as they are talking about the products. but others cannot cope with work at all. 

I feel that the government need to understand autism much more. No two autistic people are alike. 

What about the person who is has to pay for a private dentist because they dont like the building their local NHS dentists are in for example, and need to have the calm of a private dentist that understands . 

Some autistics might have to spend a fortune on a pair of shoes as they cannot wear cheaper ones for what ever reason (the way they feel etc) 

these are not all conditions or needs I have just listing how diverse we all are and why this new plan is not very nice. 

Because it is scary somehow, big brother is watching you type stuff. 

It also puts non-disabled people against disabled people they dont understand, they have never seen an autistic meltdown for example 

 

  • maths is too big a element in them... most iq tests just seem to be purely maths tests... but not basic maths, super complicated all over the place maths questions.... if i see a maths question in anything id just rip the entire paper up and leave.

    basic working maths though i can do as i worked on a old fashioned till that doesnt do any calculating for you so i had to do the quick maths there and then to calculate the change in my head myself while having no gaps in serving the customer. but iq maths tests are unrealistic and not used in the real world anyway.

  • I now have the Bee Gees playing in the back of my head Notes

  • I am also concerned with staying alive. Funnily enough.

  • I have an IQ of 133 and you are probably smarter than me.

    Bless. That's a  nice comment  

    We will never know the answer. 

    Our priorities change as we get older anyway.

    I am less concerned nowadays with IQ than with staying alive!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY

  • I have an IQ of 133 and you are probably smarter than me.

  • My “full scale IQ” was 138 which they said was greater than 98% of the population.

    Out of a max of 155 that's impressive.

    I did just find that test online and started it but I got to about question 10 and realised there were another 50 and am too tired.

    Also, I wondered if I was doing it under the correct conditions.

    Thanks for all this.

    Food for thought.

  • I tried a few online IQ tests before my assessment but they were all 20-30 questions and took minutes. The Wechsler test took nearly two hours and parts of it were timed so I think you’d only be able to get it if it was administered by a psychologist.

    It also has a maximum IQ score of 155 so I’m not sure how it relates to tests that tell us people like Newton had IQs of 180 or whatever.

    All my numbers were higher than expected with the exception of processing speed for which I got 114, which is still above average I suppose. My “full scale IQ” was 138 which they said was greater than 98% of the population.

    I have since tried the Mensa sample tests and got a much higher score <shrugs>

  • One of the common characteristics of autistic people is a spiky profile - so for example you might be mathematically gifted but have terrible verbal comprehension. This test is apparently quite good at revealing these gifts and deficits.

    If that's available online I may take a look.

    I was with my autistic friend the other day who told me that he only did a test once, 40 years ago, and has an IQ of 150.

    He also told me that he perceives me as highly intelligent - however, I don't think that would show on an ordinary IQ test and, in fact, I find the evaluation of my own intelligence impossible as I am not a high achiever either academically or career wise.

    Also, he is mathematically gifted and doesn't have the best verbal comprehension.

    You have me intrigued.

  • The test they did on me was called the Wechsler adult intelligence scale and as well as an overall IQ figure you get other numbers for things like vocabulary, arithmetic, working memory, visual processing and processing speed.

    One of the common characteristics of autistic people is a spiky profile - so for example you might be mathematically gifted but have terrible verbal comprehension. This test is apparently quite good at revealing these gifts and deficits.

  • To rule out any kind of learning or intellectual disability which might otherwise explain my problems, apparently.

    Ah. I see.

    So not to see if you have a high IQ, but rather to check you don't have a low one.

    IQ tests are something that bother me actually.

    I think I have dyscalculia and maths is an element of them.

    I've tried to do one or two but anything involving figures foxes me.

  • To rule out any kind of learning or intellectual disability which might otherwise explain my problems, apparently.

  • I had to do one as part of my autism assessment.

    Why?

    I'm really surprised by this Thinking

  • Unfortunately those who preach business as the solution to all of life's problems don't tell others just how many businesses fail.  It's a major part of our culture now though and will probably never change.

  • im not sure, the company i work at we had a vote on wages as we always do, just a yes no as to accept, ofcourse everyone just selects yes and accepts the very first offer because no one understands what they are voting for and they just see it as vote yes for more money lol mostly all dont speak english... so they dont understand.

    but anyway, being a analytical thinker type i took like 30 minutes or so thinking and questioning the union guy and running the figures before i voted lol it turns out just to raise our lowest wage by 10p per hour it would cost the company overall 10 million per year.... and the company only makes around 50 million profit per year. so just 10p extra a hour on our lowest wages wipes out 10 million a year.... 50p extra a hour would mean no profit at all. ofcourse there could be alot in their spending they can cut and it could have been a trick.... either way i said they can do better and voted no because i dont like them anyway lol but it shows things are run close to the bone most of the time.

  • My brother always says 'You have to be ruthless to make it in business', and he was right, he IS ruthless in business and very selfish with money but he's made it big and no longer has any financial worries and is driving a nice new Audi. I tried my hand at my own business a couple of years ago but was unsuccessful, not ruthless enough... but it's not in my nature to be like it and that spelled the end of my business.

    A bank will give you an umbrella when it's sunny, then snatch it away as soon as it starts to rain"...

    Ha bloody good that! And ironically 100% correct Laughing 

    Banks always look out for themselves first.

  • A lot of people here think I'm wrong or conspiracy minded or perhaps even a bit nuts, so a bit of validation goes a long way...

    You might enjoy the following aphorism: "A bank will give you an umbrella when it's sunny, then snatch it away as soon as it starts to rain"...

    The most financially sucessful and one of the nicest, most decent folk I know, once told me; "I am honest but in business you have to lie about money..." At the other end of our lives now he has multiple properties having cashed in big on his business which he built and both derives money from and "cares for" his renters. I've tried very hard to break his paradigm and do business sucessfully without any element of concealment or dishonesty and it seems to have put me at such a disadvantage. Compared to my early efforts where I was more, er, money focussed. 

  • Excellent points  cash is good, it's in your hands and it can't be taken away, easily... Digital banking and cards can be switched off and emptied in the blink of an eye.

  • Thanks for the link Former Member I'll bookmark so I can comment later.

  • They just need bank balances for that, not the entire statements.

    Try submitting one with all the other (irrelevant to the stated objective) data "redacted" and see how far that gets you..

    We are moving into a "total management of all aspects of your life" scenario at breakneck speed, and everyone seems to be pretending like mad that it isn't happening.