Naivety

There is something I noticed both on RL ASD and on the online ASD I met: total naivety. Almost all ASD act and think like they never interacted with the grit of the real world. Some of them can be quite smart and learned, but their way of thinking is 95% theory and propaganda and maybe 5% observable reality. I always ended throwing my hands up and going away, there is no point in trying to relate to somebody living in a different planet.  I really wonder how they managed to reach adult age, they were so incredibly vulnerable that they could not survive in a real job environment. No wonder why the vast majority of ASD are either unemployed or underemployed, and why 80% of ASD live with their parents or in a council housing.

Sometimes I had to talk with an ASD with passable intelligence, but I had to talk with them like I was talking with a five years old. I had to say things like: "Mate, they have scammed you, the planned that from the start" or "Mate, they are not laughing with you, they are laughing AT you". It was like talking to a wall, they did not listen.

On the contrary, I think that naivety is the only thing that keeps many ASD alive. Probably they are just too naive and isolated from the real world to understand how bad the world really is. I pride myself of not being naive, but that puts me apart from the vast majority of the ASD.  Maybe it was because I was not aware of my diagnosis and I had to live like an NT for all my life? By the way, I wonder how many of the locals here have a real house and a real job. I bet less than 10%.

I would really like to have an idea about that. How many of the people I interacted with here are unemployed, living on benefits or SAHM?

Parents
  • I feel that this post is somewhat demeaning. I may be naive in some ways, but not in the way that you are describing. I have a Bachelor and a Master's degree and I am currently studying for a PhD. Plenty of autistic people I know work full time and went to university. There is a lot of diversity in the autistic community and it is not fair to make such assumptions. 

  • I have a Bachelor and a Master's degree and I am currently studying for a PhD.

    The most naive person I met in my life had plenty of academic qualifications, but they were complete muppets. One of the engineers in my workplace is as ASD as he could be. He is incredibly gifted, but everyone takes advantage of him or walks over him without him noticing. Hell, I earn almost as much as him, and I have half of his qualifications! What's the point of being so academically smart if you cannot even stand up for yourself or ask for a proper wage? 

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  • I have a Bachelor and a Master's degree and I am currently studying for a PhD.

    The most naive person I met in my life had plenty of academic qualifications, but they were complete muppets. One of the engineers in my workplace is as ASD as he could be. He is incredibly gifted, but everyone takes advantage of him or walks over him without him noticing. Hell, I earn almost as much as him, and I have half of his qualifications! What's the point of being so academically smart if you cannot even stand up for yourself or ask for a proper wage? 

Children
  • I fail to notice how this should be my problem. I am not his legal guardian

  • I'm not quite sure what you are trying to achieve with this post. If you are noticing that someone is being taken advantage of you could try and help them rather than post on an online forum and making generalisations about all autistic people. Rather than saying the autistic individual is a 'muppet' I would say it is really sad that other people think it is ok to take advantage of someone else and you seem to be part of that.