Published on 12, July, 2020
I don't know about others, but I'm getting a little concerned that the arguments will put off new members.
Quite often people join and then disappear quite quickly.
I've been involved in these myself on occasion, so I'm not innocent.
However, maybe the mods could create a section where these potentially contentious threads could be placed that had a heading like NSFW (a new one on me but it seems to be well known).
If a seemingly innocuous thread then turns into a constant argument, perhaps it could be moved to there.
It's sometimes interraction between older males and older females (or non binary etc) and comes down to very different relationship/*ex points of view but can of course stem from any subject and any set of contributors.
I think it happens more often than it once did, and I've not been here a year yet.
After reading this thread and the other one that's causing controversy, I'm not surprised women and queer people don't feel safe here.
What in particular do you feel has made "women and queer people" not feel safe here?
As far as I am aware, there has been nothing that has threatened them.I'm getting quite tired of these accusations that are being implied by a number of posters without any substance. Many times I have asked for posters to quote my words to back up the accusations that they are making. No surprise that so far there has been nothing.
I thought that this was supposed to be an inclusive community where all views within the rules are permitted. I have reported my own posts to the mods to make them aware. If I have broken any of the rules, then I expect to hear back from them.
I literally told you why your bullet points seemed homophobic. You ignored it.
For context, this thread came following views being espoused by several current members including that women were better off in the days when they were forced to be housewives, gay pride events are like 1940s German rallies, a woman should stop taking antidepressants because her reduced sex drive was annoying her partner, white people are the real victims and a whole string of deeply concerning posts about consent. Several members left or went into hibernation because the toxic discourse was upsetting them.
🐝 Bees 🐝 (they/them) Autism resources in bio #stoptheshock #NothingAboutUsWithoutUs said:We have afterall managed to have some very good discussions, I just wish more were like it.
I agree, and have, in the past, congratulated both of you for the manner in which you have navigated and contained the emotive elements of an issue to keep appropriately "on topic."
Your discussions with Peter have helped me to "think around" some of the difficult subject matter that you have tackled - and for that, I thank you both.
A) I was just doing a bit of nitpicking. B) I'm not nessicerally sugesting you thought the forum rules trump the law ... but I could see other people concluding that from your post.
I'm honestly surprised you decided to pick at that considering that I literally never said that wasn't the case. I find often times Peter you appear to read things in my posts and replies that aren't there. Which is a shame as I frequently find it stops us having as productive a chat as we could be having instead. We have afterall managed to have some very good discussions, I just wish more were like it.
From a purely legal point of view the rules of law trump the rules of the forum. And it is sometimes possible to get court orders to have defermation trials in secret. Also you can sometimes get court orders to force online forums to hand over personal details of people accused of defermation. But in order to do this you at least need to have an arguable case.
Ridiculous sabre-rattling.
I Sperg said:a co-ordinated mob arrives to vilify you,
There is no co-ordinated mob.
There are just individuals who are often vulnerable and who have received persecution in these sensitive areas, as I have.
Some of those individuals have now left the forum to be replaced by others who are now leaving, and so the cycle repeats itself.
Just people trying to go about our lives with a lot of adversity that doesn't need the addition of conflict here.