Struggling to speak in new situations/with new people - different from mutism

Hi everyone, 

I notice that when in group situations, new situations, or meeting new people, I often really struggle to speak. I don't think it's mutism though - I do speak, just very little, and I really struggle to know what to say. I sometimes notice it with friends too, despite being with comfortable with words/language/verbal communication in other contexts. It feels like I've only recently started to make the link between this experience and being Autistic, and I'm a little worried as I hope to start training as a therapist in a few months and would hate for this to happen with clients. 

I've almost never scripted, as (despite how scary it can be) I prefer to feel that conversations are happening 'organically' - and also I would probably be very thrown if I prepared a thorough script or even just a structural outline only to have the interaction go in a different direction from what I've planned. Wondering if anyone has thoughts on any of this, or strategies for dealing with it? Thanks in advance :)  

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  • I suffer from this too. As far as I remember it started at school. I would be unable to answer if a teacher asked me a question in class, even though I knew the answer and tried to speak.

    The official medical term is selective mutism. However, along with many of the autistic community, I do not like that term. It implies that we are choosing not to speak, which is absolutely not the case. I prefer to use the term situational mutism, which better reflects that it only applies in certain situations.

    I do use scripts and I find it helps to some extent. However, like you say, as soon as the interaction goes off script I am thrown and then it is much more likely for the situational mutism to happen. 

    Group situations is a big problem for me too. I suffered from it when working in open plan offices or attending any type of social event or local groups. I joined a local special interest group a few years ago, thinking that because I was interested in the topic it might be easier for me to speak in a group situation. It didn't work. At the first meeting I introduced myself to the group, using a well rehearsed script. I continued to attend the group meetings regularly for a couple of years but I don't think I ever spoke again. It never got any easier.

    Sometimes I have something to say but cannot speak. Sometimes I can speak but have nothing to say, do not know what to say or cannot find a suitable opportunity.

    I think the problem with groups is that there is so much happening at once I cannot keep up. If I do manage to follow some of the conversation and think of something to say then I can't find a suitable gap to speak. By the time there is a gap the conversation will have moved on and the comment is no longer appropriate. Speaking one to one is a quiet environment, with no distractions, I find much easier.

    The only person I am really comfortable speaking with is my mum. Even with her my speech can just shut down if it becomes too much. If there is anyone else present or other distractions then I am much more likely to become situationally mute.

    There is a link to a couple of Aucademy videos on the topic in this post from a few months ago.

    https://community.autism.org.uk/f/adults-on-the-autistic-spectrum/27493/aucademy-videos-on-situational-mutism

    An interesting theory from the videos is that the situational mutism is less likely to happen when we are communicating with others from our own neurokin. I have not yet had the opportunity to test out this theory, as I do not know any other autistic people outside of this forum (apart from my undiagnosed mum). This theory may be relevant for you if you are planning to offer therapy to autistic clients.

    On this website you can purchase or download for free an 'I am autistic' card. This explains some of the difficulties we tend to experience and can be useful to show in a situation where you cannot speak.

    I deal with it by avoiding the kinds of situations where it happens as much as possible. I opt to communicate by email or live chat, rather than in person or by telephone. I would be interested to hear if anyone has managed to overcome such difficulties and what their strategy was.

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  • I suffer from this too. As far as I remember it started at school. I would be unable to answer if a teacher asked me a question in class, even though I knew the answer and tried to speak.

    The official medical term is selective mutism. However, along with many of the autistic community, I do not like that term. It implies that we are choosing not to speak, which is absolutely not the case. I prefer to use the term situational mutism, which better reflects that it only applies in certain situations.

    I do use scripts and I find it helps to some extent. However, like you say, as soon as the interaction goes off script I am thrown and then it is much more likely for the situational mutism to happen. 

    Group situations is a big problem for me too. I suffered from it when working in open plan offices or attending any type of social event or local groups. I joined a local special interest group a few years ago, thinking that because I was interested in the topic it might be easier for me to speak in a group situation. It didn't work. At the first meeting I introduced myself to the group, using a well rehearsed script. I continued to attend the group meetings regularly for a couple of years but I don't think I ever spoke again. It never got any easier.

    Sometimes I have something to say but cannot speak. Sometimes I can speak but have nothing to say, do not know what to say or cannot find a suitable opportunity.

    I think the problem with groups is that there is so much happening at once I cannot keep up. If I do manage to follow some of the conversation and think of something to say then I can't find a suitable gap to speak. By the time there is a gap the conversation will have moved on and the comment is no longer appropriate. Speaking one to one is a quiet environment, with no distractions, I find much easier.

    The only person I am really comfortable speaking with is my mum. Even with her my speech can just shut down if it becomes too much. If there is anyone else present or other distractions then I am much more likely to become situationally mute.

    There is a link to a couple of Aucademy videos on the topic in this post from a few months ago.

    https://community.autism.org.uk/f/adults-on-the-autistic-spectrum/27493/aucademy-videos-on-situational-mutism

    An interesting theory from the videos is that the situational mutism is less likely to happen when we are communicating with others from our own neurokin. I have not yet had the opportunity to test out this theory, as I do not know any other autistic people outside of this forum (apart from my undiagnosed mum). This theory may be relevant for you if you are planning to offer therapy to autistic clients.

    On this website you can purchase or download for free an 'I am autistic' card. This explains some of the difficulties we tend to experience and can be useful to show in a situation where you cannot speak.

    I deal with it by avoiding the kinds of situations where it happens as much as possible. I opt to communicate by email or live chat, rather than in person or by telephone. I would be interested to hear if anyone has managed to overcome such difficulties and what their strategy was.

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  • Hi, 
    Thank you for such an honest and detailed response. I know of situational mutism, but as I mentioned in the main post I'm not sure this is the same as what I experience. While I resonate with almost everything you shared in relation to group environments in particular, I'm not sure that I'm literally unable to speak in the situations where  ifficulties arise. I was very active in answering teachers' questions in school, but then really struggled to engage as soon as we had to work in groups - by 'engage' I mean interact and contribute, except during tasks that really interested me not the others. 

    What made me post this was that I joined a new group yesterday - one that's linked to another aspect of my identity - and found it really difficult to know what to say/how to interact with those I met. But again, I did speak a little, and perhaps if I had had no choice I could have spoken more. 

    It's interesting that you mention the theory about mutism being less likely to occur when interacting with neurokin. There are times when I have found this - the from still couple of times I attended a local Autistic meetup group were very freeing, as I was able to speak much more confidently than I can in most other group situations, particularly on a first meeting. The last couple of times have been much harder. The group has been bigger, and the venue has been very noisy - both factors that contribute to me struggling with communication. Yet everyone else in the group has seemed to be able to communicate very well in those meetings, which made me question my hunch about this being potentially connected with being autistic. (I'm blind as well so can't lipread to aid communication in noisy environments.) 

    Having said all that, I am incredibly lucky to know other Autistic people as well as the amazing community on this forum. I hope you can find those people too.